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Best Raw Processing Software DxO PureRAW - Integrate with Photoshop, Lightroom and Capture One

Photo Moment - April 14, 2021

Introducing the BEST Raw processing ever, DxO PureRAW - Optics Modules and DeepPRIME now integrate seamlessly with Photoshop, Lightroom, Capture One, more!

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I tried to drag the photo from LR to Pure Raw - but its not exporting it - it shows the circle with the / across it! i dont know whats going on there :-(

And if i import directly into Pure Raw and then export to LR - it doesnt create a sub folder as you mentioned

So then what i tried was - convert the photo into BW in LR, then went to pure Raw and imported the photo there - but it imported it as a color photo so that means my external XMP is not being read.
Ok, my computer is a little older, but one picture took over 5 minutes, however cannot fault the outcome
Yeah it’s power hungry but worth the wait!
The noise reduction result is amazing, now i can reprocess some of my old photos.
Awesome!
Excellent video! Though when I drag and drop an image with my A7RIII import preset from LR Classic to PureRAW the sliders are zeroed out after returning it to LR unlike in your video. I wonder why? I've tried ctrl-tab also but it's the same. Also, I find dragging and dropping a LR thumbnail onto PureRAW in my dock (on Mac) saves the ctrl-tab step.
Interesting, and that's awesome! I think it has something to do with auto-saving of metadata…
if i use PURERAW with capture one and PS, i will end up having original RAW files + DNG + TIF files ?
Are they paying you for number of words you speak in a video? You talk to fast.
There’s a playback speed option if I’m going to fast for you. Works great.
DXO noise reduction is awesome but the camera module for lens collection is still faulty.
believe it or not , it adds vignette to my RAW file !!!

My camera : Sony a7RIII
Lens : Sony 20mm f1.8 G

And I just have found that if we do not want DXO to sharpen and lighthen our RAW image, Do not click " Camera Module"
The RAW will be only denoised and the rest will be kept in original.
I already use Pure Raw, but you made me discover very useful tricks, thanks ! BTW, do you know if the sharpness/accentuation can be reduced in PhotoLab, and if so, with which sliders/settings ? That would be useful for some photos, especially for portraits.
So if I have DxO Photolabs 4 does that mean I dont need PureRAW?
Thanks Joseph, I purchased it a few weeks ago to use mostly with my DJI Mavic 2 Pro drones, the lens correction is so much better than the LR version. My only complaint is the over sharpening. Tree branches, leaves etc are now 'crunchy', attempts in LR to soften the worst parts are ok, but still not right. The product need a sharpening slider. A photo last week over vineyard at sunrise just above the fog layer, the fog has been processed and appears way to sharp. The noise removal in the vary dark areas is amazing. I'm in two minds about the product. I want the noise reduction and lens correction, not the amount of sharpness, maybe 50%.
+1
im not sure this is really ideal for all camera systems and DAM's. if you are shooting fujifilm and on C1, there go all your film sims. The NR looks good though.
Fuji xs10..... ????!!!!
Thank you for this good video. I’d like to go back and send many of my old photos through Pure Raw. However, they are inside Lightroom and have already been converted to DNG. I do not have the original RAW files. Will I still be able to do what you do at 12:34 and following? I ask because you seem to be saying that what you do here works only because you still have the original RAW file, as opposed to having converted it to DNG already.
I'm pretty sure you still need the original RAW files for DXO to do its thing.
@Raven Starver Thanks. I just found this. My DNGs were created by Lightroom.
https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019089417-Which-DNG-files-are-supported-by-DxO-PureRAW-as-input-
Shame this software won't install on my AMD Ryzen computer!
Hi Photojoseph, just a note that DxO PureRaw doesn’t support demosaicing of Fujifilm X-trans RAF files. Cheers.
Nor Hasselblad RAW Files, and seems to have issues with DNG files from Smartphones
There's a full compatibility list of supported files at dxo.com/supported-cameras and yeah Fuji x-trans have long been on their list of unsupported.
Can you show a workflow with Capture One?
I really wanted to but my "lifetime" license expired (no idea how that works!) and I wasn't keen to spend the money on it to show what can be explained. Right-click to reveal the image, then add that to Capture One.
@PhotoJoseph Thank you. I will have to try it sometime with the demo version of PureRAW.
Already works with raw fuji files?
No, it does not support conversion of Fujifilm X-Trans RAF files. Capture One does, as well as Iridient Developer.
Looks nice but I use a lot of stand alone 360 cameras like the Theta Z1. They are doing their best Impersonation of the soup nazi from Seinfeld for me... NO SUPPORT YOU!!
LOL… do those cameras shoot RAW? And, I’d imagine, that an image that has to be distorted to look normal, would be pretty hard to un-distort and still maintain its function
@PhotoJoseph The 3 I have all shoot dng, currently they vary in price from $150 for the oldest (4 years old) and 1K for the newest.

I know the really expensive ones do as well. Many will shoot a bracketed jpg some will do dng, my oldest included.

As for editing, depending on the camera, sometimes they will be unstitched with two fisheye pics. Not the easiest to work with but still very doable.

I prefer the newer ones, which after stitching the dng is displayed as an equirectangular image for easier post in ACR, then edited as a smart object in Photoshop to remove the nadir. After that a simple save as new 360 image in whatever format you prefer.

For my newer cameras my standard workflow is import, stitch automatically. Check the stitch if needed fix horizon and orientation or improper stitching in 360 software. Send dng to ACR, to Photoshop, usually denoise finally gigapixel if needed.
If you think about it it's really not that much different from shooting 360s with a DSLR but for most shoots you don't need the quality of a DSLR for Google Earth or even real estate for shoots. Unless of course you're shooting Downton Abbey or Hearst's Castle lol.
A bit involved yes but goes fairly quick.
SOunds fun, I’ve done very little with 360. Neat!
@PhotoJoseph It is fun check out some of Ben Claremont's videos he does a great job.
The software is great at noise reduction. But it gives you no settings at all. There is no way to turn off sharpening (unless you turnoff lens corrections all together). This is a deal-breaker for me.
I like how it correctly fix the distortion.
yes, it's really good at that!
This will be great for milky way photography.
Yes! While I didn't show a star image, I've seen examples where the Lightroom noise reduction eliminates stars, but the PureRAW does not. It's wild.
@PhotoJoseph most of the time I take 10 to 12 images and stack them in Sequator to reduce noise. I wonder how much cleaner the images would be to I've pure raw first and then stack in Sequator. I probably wouldn't have to use as many images. But I also wonder if it would cause any problems.
Only one way to find out!
Dear Sir, i would like to mention that you can also do a drag and drop in case people use Adobe Bridge as an asset management tool like myself. I also have Topaz denoise and Topaz studio which give similar results. One thing i have noticed is that Pure Raw adds some details to the raw file. In the case of Topaz Studio i normally use the AI which is pretty darn good. While Topaz can be used a plugin inside Photoshop , DxO 's Pure Raw cannot at this point in time. Maybe they would bring in another version to work as a plugin. Anyways thanks for the Video.
@PhotoJoseph Yes i use mac os. After trying different applications, one thing is for sure. Applications are moving generally in the direction of AI usage and at some point it would be difficult to state which one is better. I use different apps depending upon the images.
PureRAW isn't AI. It's painstaking manual calibration of each and every camera and lens combination!
@PhotoJoseph Yes i am aware of that. Since most of the other apps turn into AI i was thinking about the roadmap for PuerRAW.
I see. Maybe one day, but only once it’s better than what the humans can do!
@PhotoJoseph I just wanted to mention that some customers would be glad if Pure RAW had considered processing .RAF files of Fujifilm XT-series ... I own an XT-3 and the DxO Photolab cannot process these files while they can accept GFX files ....due to which i rely on Topaz or ACR . GFX files are already superb and only a little processing is needed....The reason why XT-3 files require Pure RAW is due to the fact that the noise levels in XT-3 are fairly high when compared to say Nikon D850 or GFX 100 under low lighting conditions. Having created a separate engine as a standalone to process RAW , probably, this would have been a killer app if .RAF of XT series was there. Thank you for the interesting discussions.
Adobe products are so terrible at demosaicing/processing Canon RAW, that I'm afraid an external processing app is required to do justice to one's Canon photos...
Oh really! That bad huh? That’s surprising.
Is the workflow any different if you're using Adobe Bridge?
Someone here just said you can even drag and drop, but if not then I think you can right-click open-in PureRAW from Bridge.
Hi Joseph, if a RAW file has been over sharpened in DxO, can it be adjusted back in Lr..? Thanks for a clear,concise tutorial.👍🏻
Not really… you could add some negative clarity and see how they turns out.
I found the news a pair of days ago. I´m DxO PL4 user and don´t have it clear if it´s a new software better than the PL4 or if it is a special software for Adobe Lr and Ps. Understanding in the last case if you already have the DxO PL4 software is the same technology. My questions is wondering if it would be an upgrade from the PL4. I purchased it after a hard research comparing some tools. I really like it and use it daily, but sometimes I also like Capture NX-D work. It changes a lot the original image appearance in most cases. When click on an image you can see in an instant the original one and then changes. Right like Lr does. A little discomfortable as I like to see the picture with the picture control taken (always shoot NL-neutral, Nikon). Lightroom has very good picture control profiles, at least in the case of my old D90. Neutral, Standard, etc. But DxO PL4 only offers 1 for each camera with higher contrast level. I guess they chose the standard maybe.
There is no advantage to PureRAW if you already have PhotoLab 4 other than convenience. The raw processing and deepprime are the same.
Fyi, Lightroom Classic isn't cloud based and the raw files are on your hard drive.
Yeah… I know… that's why I showed Lr Classic this way, and specifically pointed out Lightroom (CC) as being cloud based.
What does 'does not support RAW S' mean on your website?
I don't know what you're referring to… also are you talking about my website PhotoJoseph.com or the DxO website? This channel is not a DxO channel.
@PhotoJoseph oops! You're right. I went to the 'supported cameras' in the description of your video to find my camera. That's were I found the notation. I'm sure there is an explanation somewhere on that site. Thx!
oh, I think I know what you mean… RAW Small. Some cameras shoot a smaller version of a RAW image, and the software may not support that.
It’s worth noting that Pure RAW converts RAW files to an RGB variant of the DNG format. This is significant because the resulting DNG file will be at least triple the size of the original RAW file.
It doesn't support my Fujifilm XT4 camera.
Make your voice heard at DxO website!
how does DXO PURERAW stack up against Adobe Super Resolution enhancement?
Those are two completely different things. It's like asking how tomato soup stacks up against a bicycle.
@PhotoJoseph LMFAO that is what I thought. thx Joe
Don't use in camera denoise. Use ettr. Watch lr do it equal to the other two who needs you to shoot otherwise. 😉
ETTR doesn't solve all problems and at best will give you a stop or two difference. And, you can't go back in time and re-shoot just to overexpose and try to reduce noise.
Hi Joseph. You said it doesn't keep crop setting. It does if you first save xmp sidecar file and then process image in Pure RAW. All keywords are also preserved then.
Really unhappy drag-and-drop doesn't work in Windows 10. It makes converting old LR catalogs ... uncomfortable. Specifically when you are using LR Collections and have ... thousands of photos. As Pure RAE DeepPRIME is pretty time consuming it seems to be reasonable not to process all photos in gallery - just those which are really the best.
One more thing - to have more or less similar comparison you should compare Pure RAW results with LR Enhance details option. Still Pure RAW is winner :)
Interesting. I have found that crop does carry over sometimes, so maybe that was the trick! And good point about Enhance Details, and good to know PureRAW still wins ;-) I don't think Enance Details removes any noise though, does it?
@PhotoJoseph it is wise for speed not to keep auto XMP write. Only when you need to.
BTW DNG=RAW+XMP and makes one file only.
@KoostööKunstiKool Belbin Eesti makes sense. And yes, aware that the DNG has everything inside it. Thanks again!
Sold. Now a proud user of there software because of you Joseph.
Very cool, thanks!
Would love it if you did a comparison between DXO and Topaz DeNoise and Topaz Sharpen both of which are amazing
The soup should be good.... Whats the difference with DXO ? Nothing ...
@PhotoJoseph for thé customer of DxoLab they can’t screen DeepPrime effect but for the new customer they can ..... I’m very happy to get at least a very typical American expression ....
I don’t know what you mean by “can’t screen DeepPRIME”?
@PhotoJoseph Ah sorry "can't Display DeepPrime effect" ... only in the small window...or after the output ...
DXO Photolab not have Auto correction for image like C1, Lightroom.
You're right — PhotoLab has better corrections than C1 and Lightroom.
Question: I initially import my RAW files into Lightroom Classic as DNG files rather than native raw format files - I just prefer not having .xmp files. Will DxO Pure Raw still be able to work with them?
I used to share your opinion about sidecar files years ago. I now see them as an advantage because they make my backups exponentially faster. If I make a small edit to a RAW file with a sidecar file, only the small sidecar file needs to be copied over/uploaded. If I make that same change to a DNG, I have to back up the entire file.
@PhotoJoseph I haven't downloaded the product, but another reviewer tried it with an existing DNG file and it didn't work. Only native RAW files are accepted.
@Timothy Linn Thanks, Timothy. I considered that argument, but my backups happen in the background and with today's modern hardware are incredibly fast. I also don't work on a file dozens of times, so backing up the entire file a couple of times is no big deal. I'm just a neat freak and prefer to have just one file.
@Old Girl Photography Makes sense!
I think if the DNG is a camera-native DNG (i.e. Leica), it will work. However if it's a DNG that's been converted from another RAW format, then it will not.
Bravo! Very informative and professional presentation.
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for identifying and explaining the 4 workflow cases. I had originally dismissed PureRaw based purely on the workflow that I thought was necessary, but I see now that it's not as cumbersome as I initially thought. It is a shame that drag-and-drop doesn't work on Windows 10, but on its own not a show-stopper. Now to assess the results...
Yeah that's a bummer but I think that's a Windows thing… it definitely isn't a DxO thing. Glad the video was helpful!
Drag and drop works on my version of Windows 10, may be you only need to check and see if there's an update available that could take care of that.
It takes 5 min to process a g9 file in pure raw. Is this normal?
Depends on your system. You saw on this demo how fast it was, but this is a Mac Pro.
What LR user who cares about noise and sharpness would ignore the sharpening radius and masking sliders? I presume your module uses a detail mask on the sharpening as well as tunes the sharpening to the intrinsic fuzziness of the unsharp areas.
Because the sharpening is a totally different algorithm than the generic sliders you're used to, and are calibrated on a camera+lens per camera+lens basis, even varying levels at varying focal lengths and apertures.
One thing I've never heard anyone mention is the file size after conversion. It's about three times the size as the original NEF file. The resulting files are noticeably sharper, however.
yeah, DNG are unfortunately quite a bit larger. I don't actually know why, TBH
The reason the DNG files are so much larger is that they are partially demosaiced into an RGB DNG file. That's three times the data of a standard monochromatic RAW or DNG file. (The DXO DNGs are more than 3x larger from what I've seen.) Not all DNG files are partially demosaiced into RGB, which is why if you convert a proprietary RAW file to DNG in Lr or Adobe's DNG converter the file size will be much closer. Fuji shooters who prefer to use Iridient Transformer as a pre-RAW converter experience the same thing. The file storage considerations that arise from this are the primary argument against batch converting all of your RAW files before culling and rating them. Batch converting more than triples your storage costs.
Very nice process Joseph with exceptional results, thanks
Thank you Trevor!
If it wasn’t for DXO as a company, I might have taken a look. I will NEVER give another penny to that company
Why is that then?
First of all, it's a real pleasure to watch your videos.

Just one question that is little puzzeling. At Adobe ACR module, should I put all my Sharpness and Noise reduction sliders to zero by default? As a default ACR put some sharpening (amount 25 and noise reduction (color 25) to photos. And yes, it would be great to hear, why DxO do not support newest camera phone dng files (that could really benefit for great noise reduction).
When you open a DNG in ACR, sharpening and NR are set to 0, which is where they should be. I don't have an answer to WHY phone DNG files are not yet supported; that's a question for them.
I’m sorry but not being able to customize any setting at all (amount of denoising, amount of sharpening) is an absolute no-go. What are they thinking?
Nobody serious about his photos will ever allow this kind of automatic processing.
The last image that you show with the flowers in the foreground demonstrates that perfectly: the sharpening is simply atrocious.
Will it work with ON1?
If ON1 can read DNG files (which I'm sure it can), then yes.
Can you call DxO PureRAW from Adobe Bridge?
hi John, I just installed Bridge to check this out. You can right-click on an image in Bridge and Send to PureRAW, and it will correctly send the RAW image!
@PhotoJoseph Hi Photo Joseph

Thanks for your reply. The reason I asked was that my work flow is Adobe Bridge for asset management, Photolab 4 for Raw conversion and Photoshop CS5 for further processing and use of the Nik suite. When I upgaded to the initial version of PL 4 it was intermittentky hanging when I tried to open it from within Bridge. I queried this with DXO lab support and got the following reply.

"Hello John,

Thank you for writing. DxO PhotoLab is not certified to be run as a plugin or external editor to Adobe Bridge. PhotoLab can be used as a plugin to Adobe Lightroom.

In the case of using Adobe Bridge, we recommend using Bridge and PhotoLab as standalone programs. Most customers will place a number of photo files in a specific file folder and then use Bridge as a light table to remove the photo files they do not want to process in PhotoLab from the folder. You can then start PhotoLab and work on the photo files that remain in the folder.

Thank you for contacting DxO Customer Support."

Fortunately the problem has dissapeared with later revisions to 4, but I am concerned that it might recur in future. Hopefully not or DXO labs will be missing a trick.
I'm glad to hear it's working now!
Does this software have the ability to use color checker passport to correct colors?
No, it does not.
Dragging pictures from LR Classic to DxO PureRAW does not seem to work on PC - or is there a different key combination? I have a lot of pictures taken with E-620 (!) and would like to processes those. Help is appreciated!
Thank you - Maybe we should tell it to DxO - it is such a nice feature!@PhotoJoseph
That’s not a dxo feature, it’s an Adobe feature. I think that it’s probably even a difference between macOS and Windows itself.
@PhotoJoseph you can do it one photo at a time ... "Show in Explorer" to go to filsystem and drag-and-drop then. And I have few hundreds of images to denoise ...
Yes, that's the traditional workflow. The question was about the cool drag-and-drop from Lightroom workflow, which I now know only works on macOS.
@PhotoJoseph drag-and-drop is going to be important feature if you are using Lightroom Collection feature - images from different folders.
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