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It’s Here! ProRes RAW + LUMIX S1H + Atomos Ninja V!

Photo Moment - July 27, 2020

The Panasonic LUMIX S1H + Atomos Ninja V ProRes RAW update is here! After a brief delay, the software is ready to install on your camera and recorder. This is version 2.1 of the S1H firmware, and a beta of the Atomos Ninja V firmware, which must be requested from Atomos. Links below.

Watch the video to full understand how to apply the new LUTs! It's important to follow these steps to get the most from your RAW footage.

Required downloads (firmware updates and LUTs)

Installation instructions

I'm not recording another new video on this since I've done several before. If you want to see how to update your S1H, watch this video on updating the S1/S1R (starting at 3:15) — it's the same procedure. To update your Ninja V, follow the instructions provided by Atomos.


Official Press Release — Panasonic Releases Firmware Version 2.1 for LUMIX S1H Supporting RAW Video Data Output

Panasonic has announced the LUMIX S1H firmware update program version 2.1 that supports RAW video data output. Working together with Atomos, a global company that creates video equipment for professional film creators, the new firmware enables the output of maximum 5.9K/29.97p and 59.94p 4K* RAW video data over HDMI to save it as Apple ProRes RAW on the Atomos Ninja V 4K HDR monitor-recorder. In addition, it further complies with 3.5K Anamorphic 4:3. Panasonic commits to provide innovative solutions for professional film creation by enabling all S1H users to receive this firmware for free of charge.

The program is available at LUMIX Global Customer Support website here at UTC/GMT 6:00 A.M. on 28 July, 2020.

* 4128x2176(17:9), announced as “C4K” at IBC2019. Corresponding to C4K (4096×2160) as defined by Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI).

LUMIX S1H Firmware Version 2.1

RAW video data output over HDMI

  • [5.9K] / [4K] / [Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K] 12-bit RAW video data can be output over HDMI. The Apple ProRes RAW can be recorded on Atomos Ninja V.*1
AreaResolutionFrame RateAspectHDMI Output

Full-Frame

5.9K (5888×3312)

29.97p/25p/23.98p

16:9

12-bit

Super 35mm

4K (4128×2176)

59.94p/50p/29.97p/25p/23.98p

17:9

12-bit

Super 35mm Anamorphic

3.5K (3536×2656)

50p/29.97p/25p/23.98p

4:3

12-bit

  • V-Log or Rec.709 is selectable on Live View monitor during RAW output. 
  • Shooting assist functions including WFM (Wave Form Monitor), Vector Scope, Luminance Spot Meter, Zebra Pattern can be used during RAW output.
  • A LUT (Lookup table) exclusively designed for RAW video recorded on NINJA V is available on the following customer support website to make the same color grading as V-Log/V-Gamut.*2 It is easy to match colors between the footages recorded with Panasonic Varicam, EVA1 and GH5 series cameras to combine them. Download here.

*1 Selectable recording mode depends on the version of ATOMOS NINJA V.
All functions may not be available depending on the situation.
*2 Software that supports Apple ProRes RAW is required to edit RAW video recorded with NINJA V.

  • Ninja V / ATOMOS are registered trademarks of ATOMOS Limited.
  • Apple and ProRes are trademarks or registered trademarks of Apple Inc. in the United States and/or other countries.
  • Design and specifications are subject to change without notice.

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🛑🛑 PLEASE READ 🛑🛑 You need BOTH the Firmware for the S1H and the beta firmware for the Ninja V (which you have to request!), along with the appropriate LUTs to edit with. The links and instructions to all of this are at https://PhotoJoseph.com/yt/S1H-RAW
Thanks for the review... Can you share any sample 5k raw data?
How can I turn the atomos ninja v into a grading monitor?
if you have a spare HDMI port, you can connect it to that and your computer will just see it as a second monitor. Sometimes… for some reason ATOMOS monitors don’t always work that way. But if you use an interface like a Blackmagic UltraStudio or DeckLink then your NLE should treat it as a reference monitor. Of course check compatibility before you buy, but I use both of those named with Final Cut Pro X and Resolve.
Now that Atomos has released v.53, is it still necessary to ask for beta .52? ... Thanks.
S1h with ninja v camera controls ninja for record in non- raw recording. When I set up for Raw shoot the camera cannot trigger the ninja v. HDMI timecode output is set to on on the S1. Any ideas? Newest firmware on both.
@PhotoJoseph is it true we get 44mins recording time on a 1tb ssd using Pro res Raw?
So I got the updates for both S1H and Atomos ninja v. it was running great all day yesterday. Love how it looks and quality of recording. Unfortunately on my last video/scene I decided to record (5 minute video) started dropping so many frames. I am using the Atomos usb cable and their Atomos hard drive 1TB. What would be causing the recording to drop frames. It dropped at least 8 times in the short video. I even reformatted the Atomos to factory setting before I started out the day. Any help or suggest would be greatly appreciated.
I assume you mean ATOMOS HDMI cable, not USB cable. And ATOMOS doesn’t make any drives, so you may be referring to a drive in an ATOMOS enclosure? If it’s dropping frames, either the SSD isn’t fast enough, or you’ll want to do a low level format. That’s a little checkbox in the format dialog (maybe it says “secure erase” or “low level format”; I don’t recall). If you don’t see that checkbox, then the drive doesn’t support it. If however by ATOMOS drive you mean the Angelbird AtomX drive, then a low level format should definitely do the trick. They require it when you first use it, and you should do a low level format every time you start fresh with the drive.
@PhotoJoseph Oh my! I'm sorry for such a brutal message with incorrect information. Shouldn't post with only a couple hours sleep. Yes I have the Atomos HDMI cable and the Angelbird AtomX drive. Have had the Ninja and AtomX drive since Feb 2019. So when you mention low level format what would you suggest? Again, sorry for the bad first message.
Adam No worries brother. Just make sure that check box is checked in the format dialog.
I got a Problem with the same Setup. The raw Signal switches on and of every second. Do you knaw a solution?
Probably the cable. Make sure your cable is 18Gbps capable. If you see “2.0” or “2.1” on the cable, that does not necessarily mean it’s 18Gbps. 2.0 and 2.1 are HDMI port specs, not HDMI cable specs. The ATOMOS cable will work, although you can get them for MUCH cheaper on MonoPrice
Thank you for your answer. I have the ATOMOS cable. I tried another cable, same problem. I tried switching HDMI Standard setting from 2.0 to Z-Cam, after that it works fine. But I have to do this everytime I turn on the camera.
Filmwerkstatt Lindau That’s very odd. Have you asked Atomos about it? Remember this firmware is beta so bug reports are critical.
@PhotoJoseph Can you possibly do some interior "Real Estate" type shots. I would like to see if this will help to get a well balanced picture with inside and outside lighting.
You don't need RAW for that. Log will work.
@PhotoJoseph Do you have a video on your Log workflow?
You know… I’ve talked a lot about Log, meant to do one on Log for G9 (of course it’s the same for any camera), and never finished it. I should do that some time soon!
COULD SOMEONE HAVE MADE THE PRORES RAW WORK? I'M 5 HOURS AGO AND I CAN'T DO IT, AND I FOLLOWED ALL THE STEPS THAT WERE INDICATED. one more lie? my god.
So here’s the thing about asking for help… “it doesn’t work” is not useful information. What is and isn’t happening? Give us details, and maybe someone can help. Also, don’t call it a lie because you can’t get it to work.
It's not quite here yet. Panasonic released their half of the firmeare but atomos's isn't out for the public yet. Updated my S1H today just to find out you have to apply for the beta firmware for atomos.
Did you request the beta firmware? I don’t know how long it’s supposed to take… I would assume it’s instant but I don’t know.
Hey Joseph, thx for the test and the explanation. I only got a black screen after all updates on my ninjav. the waveform and the meters are working - i am able to record a full signal. But in preview and while recording i can't see anything on the ninjav. Do u have any suggestions? Thx for the help.
Did you request and receive the beta 10.52 firmware from ATOMOS? You have to request it, it would seem. I’m going to update my verbiage in this description. Go to https://www.atomos.com/firmware/ninja-v and click the beta request button. If you already did that, please tell me how long it took to get the software, confirm that you have ATOMOS 10.52 on the Ninja, and we’ll take it from there.
@PhotoJoseph Hey Joseph, sorry for the late answer. But thx a lot for the advise. It worked like u said. I requested and got lucky in the end. So thx again for the answer and keep up your awesome quality work! YEEHAA
What your thought on Ninja Inferno being obsolete?
What makes it obsolete?
Thanks Joseph - really well explained. Now I need to modify my workflow - appreciated.
Thanks Shiv!
Finally its usable for everyone. Excited to test it out later ... tho installing premiere for it is a bummer
There is no RAW to Log workflow for Premiere, I’m sorry to say. Currently FCPX is the only native workflow. This is an Adobe support issue; please raise it with them!
We need RAW for the GH5S as well. The GH5S was sold as a PRO camera (rather than the prosumer GH5) and as a B-CAM to the EVA1. Overall the GH5S deserves a big ”2.0” level firmware before the GH6 comes out.
I mean, that’d be nice and all, but the camera was never marketed as a camera with RAW capability, and certainly a camera does not have to have RAW to be pro.
PhotoJoseph
You are correct. However It was marketed as a B-CAM to the EVA-1 which also was not marketed as a RAW camera but now has external RAW regardless. No big deal perhaps but Pana could definietly have done a lot more. Especially when Fuji released the XT3 and BMD with the Pocket 4K. I was very surprised Pana did not do more in order to compete through the GH5S. Both GH5 and G9 has had a massive feature increase since 1.0 but the GH5S is basically the same camera as when released, with only minor improvements. AFAIK Pana has not even fixed the flash synch to do continuous time sync, it’s still just jam synch and thus unusable. They basically wasted all that initial R&D it seems to me.
They could also have done more things like a tweaked Vlog-L or the proper Vlog with the full DR instead of the Vlog—L. Jordan Drake requested this on the release in januari 2018. All we really got was better auto focus and a bit cleaner VFR. GH6 is around the corner, so it looks to me that pana basically gave up on the GH5S and did so very early.
Henrik the Hesychast I’m honestly curious, as someone who only focuses on LUMIX I don’t know the answer to this — does any other manufacturer even come close to the level of advancement that Panasonic provides for older cameras? The GH5 is three and a half years old and still an extremely valid camera with recent updates. Is there a single Canon, Nikon, Fuji etc. camera from late 2016/ early 2017 that has gotten updates like this?
PhotoJoseph. I think I perfectly point out that Pana has done an excellent job with GH5 and G9. I specifically ask about the lack of the same with GH5S. At release Jordan Drake question the lack of DR efficiency in log and Curtis Judd was baffled about the lack of continuous time sync. Here we are two and a half years later and none of those issues have been resolved. The massive increase in features in the GH5 and G9 only make this more surprising. As you say yourself we are not talking about Sony here, but a high end Lumix camera. The most expensive in the m43 lineup. In a nutshell, the GH5 and G9 improvements are great but they do not help GH5S owners.
Henrik the Hesychast understood. I don’t have answers I’m afraid
such an impressive news! good to have a saturated market with cool features.
Does this work with the shogun 7 at this moment?
No. If it did, I promise I would have told you 🙂
That was a super concise and clear definition of how this setup works. Really really helpful, even if using other cameras with the Ninja V and ProRes RAW. Thank you!
Nice, thank YOU!
who cares about fcpx? resolve all the way
Until Resolve supports ProRes RAW, it’s FCPX my friend.
Are we just gonna not talk about Premiere?
There is no RAW to Log workflow for Premiere currently. Definitely bring this up with Adobe and ask them to support it. The more requests they get, the more likely they will add it.
Just tell me... Is there 4 stops of highlight recovery like the BMPCC4K? And can you edit the white balance during editing?
@PhotoJoseph man it sucks that you can't use Pro Res Raw in DaVinci Resolve. 😤😤😤
I won’t disagree.
How are you liking the S1H?
@PhotoJoseph lol... I dream that it's very good. I don't have it yet. But I think I will end up with it.
How about Premiere?
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