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Open Gate in LUMIX GH6 Part 2 — Anamorphic with LAOWA Nanomorphs

Photo Moment - December 18, 2022

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Open Gate, part 2! The previous Open Gate video was so well received that I decided to revisit it approaching a really interesting question — when shooting anamorphic, should you be shooting in Open Gate or in native 16:9 (or even 17:9)?

All anamorphic footage shot on LAOWA Nanomorph lenses (except comparison to SIRUI lenses, obviously)

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5.8K Open Gate INTERNAL UHD INTERNAL 5.7K ProRes INTERNAL 5.8K ProRes RAW ATOMOS Ninja V or V+ Native Aspect Ratio 4:3 16:9 17:9 4:3 Native Resolution 5760 × 4320 3840 × 2160 5728 × 3024 5760 × 4320 1.5× Squeeze Aspect Ratio 2:1 2.67:1 2.84:1 2:1 1.5× Squeeze Resolution (horizontal stretch) 5760 × 2880 (or 8640 × 4320) 3840 × 1440 (or 5760 × 2160)  5728 × 2016 (or 8592 × 3024)  5760 × 2880 (or 8640 × 4320) Max Frame Rate 29.97 59.94 29.97 (59.94 in 4K) 25, or 29.97 w/ V+ Max Bit Rate 200 Mbps 800 Mbps 1.9 Gbps 1.9 Gbps Bit Depth 10-bit 10-bit 10-bit 12-bit Codec 4:2:0 Long Gop 4:2:2 All Intra ProRes 422 / 422HQ ProRes RAW

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LUMIX GH6 is $500 off right now!! Great holiday deal on a great camera https://geni.us/LumixGH6
Bought three when it was 700 dollars off during Black Friday. Was gonna go A7iv but couldnt pass up that deal.
10 minute, 18 second mess.
Wow. Charming.
I never understood the vertical video, are people completely unable to turn their mobile devices sideways?
sorry… I have to say it… "OK, boomer" haha (yeah I'm with you). Fact is, vertical video is here to stay. Like it or not. I realized we were doomed when I watched someone watching a normal horizontal video… but holding their phone vertically. So to answer your question… yes… some people are completely unable to turn their phone sideways! That said, it's an ideal format for short form when. you're already holding the phone vertically, so yeah, it's here to stay.
@PhotoJoseph Gotcha, although I am far from "boomer" lol. As a filmmaker, vertical video is irrelevant to me, or at least I hope we will never experience movie theaters or TV sets with vertical screens 😂
I think you meant “vertical” 🤨
@PhotoJoseph Thank you, yes, just corrected it 😄
Thank you for yet another good video..
Is there an advantage/improvement in video quality shooting in 5.7K prorez internal and bringing it to 4k?
Or just shooting 4k right away is going to give you the same image?

Not interested or worried about vertical or other aspect ratios. Just want to take advantage of my gh6 and get the best full 4k video I can get out of it. Now since I have an option for filming in 5.7 and down sample it to 4k does it give 4k any improvement? Thanks
There’s two advantages to 5.7K ProRes — bitrate and resolution. If you scale the full image down to 4K in an NLE that may look different than the scale in camera, but that’s splitting hairs. The real advantage is the ability to punch into the shot without scaling up. Bitrate on ProRes is higher so you may see a quality difference there but likely only if there’s a lot of motion. They are both 422 10-bit. Or you can go external raw for 12-bit.
It's a shame none of Sony FX cameras shoot open gate (3:2). It would be ideal with 1.6x Sirui lenses ...
And it's kinda sad that BMPCC has 16:9 sensor :(.
Yep, the BMPCC cameras are good but their S35 sensor is limiting. Guess it’s time to get a LUMIX! 😁
@PhotoJoseph The only Lumix I would get is S1H which also shoots open gate 3:2 on full frame. Problem there is it's only 24p, which will be a bit problematic here in Europe with indoors shoots, cause all lights will flicker on me if 25p is not used.

If Sony adds opengate 3:2 shooting to FX6 I will buy it. Now I'm kinda hesitant.
@JoAT Tech frame rate alone doesn’t create the flicker. It’s a combination of shutter speed/angle and frame rate. You can shoot 24p in 50Hz lighting and avoid flicker. Watch this video: https://youtu.be/0kAuDuV9K9U
Your music sound track is a little over the top when you are not talking, but it's the only thing we have to listen to when you are not talking, so it's manageable. When you are talking however, you need to decide whether you want us to listen to what you have to say, or the incessant and repetitive musical phrase that you seem to think is required to hold our attention. In fact, at least for me, it does just the opposite. Add to that the detailed nature of your content, and you get the perfect bail.
“Add that to the detailed nature of my content and you get the perfect bail”. Sounds to me like details aren’t your thing, Glen. Sorry, but details are what I provide. Music balance is a tough nut to crack and I’ll take it under advisement that it may be too loud, but removing details are not going to happen to appease one viewer.
Thank you for sharing this. Ever since we moved from analog TV or old film cameras to digital we introduce a war of formats and quality. We are causing nightmare for programmers with the too many formats and incompatibilities. Ever since the digital age we are loosing our history. Some formats are not longer playable and will be lost forever. Time to have a "true" standard!
I don’t know what this video has to do with your formats concern but I’m glad you enjoyed it.
A lot of cool stuff there.
But unfortunately you can't "eliminate" rolling shutter as suggested at 8:47 . It's a function of the sensor readout, so always present in CMOS, some sensors are quicker, and others slower, hence more visible.
Rotating the camera 90degrees would simply switch the artifacts around: The horizontal axis would now display compression/extension, and the vertical axis the jello effect.

Nonetheless it would be a different look.
fair enough. And it's definitely a different look!
I just published a video about the anamorphic photos i shot with GH6 in Tokyo than i saw your video pop up on my feed! Really great explanation as usual, and some of those shots using the Nanomorph is killer! 💯
No kidding! Heading to your channel to watch it now! And thank you 😊
Since we see the latest Fuji cameras are capable of shooting internal 12 bit. Im hoping Panasonic adds this to our GH6 bodies soon,. 12 bit raw internal will be a holy grail for most of us. Same guts as one another.
This Anamorphic test is absolutely fantastic.
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks! 12-bit internal on Fuji — are you sure? I just searched for that and only found reference to external 12-bit RAW, same as LUMIX. Also no one can capture internal compressed RAW. It’s a (ludicrous, ridiculous, must-be-ended) patent owned by RED. The only reason blackmagic cameras can record internal blackmagic raw is because it’s not actually raw. It’s partially debayered which skirts the patent. That said I do like bRAW. It’s a nice image and a good compromise. The whole thing is nuts.
@PhotoJoseph My apologies, I just found the article on the Fuji and the 12 bit Raw. Its output is in two flavours of Raw, Pro Res and Black magic Braw. Your totally right. At least if we could have Braw in these cameras, that would still be better than the prores.
@PhotoJoseph problem solved with atomos ninja. Great Ssd solution.
Another great video - I appreciate the visuals and the way you make it a lot easier to understand. Keep the content coming! 👌🏻
Thanks man, that's much appreciated!
Very cool man! Im interested in how the lenses will work with fuji xh2s, which can shoot 6,2K opengate internal prores HQ in a 3:2 format. Think open gate shooting with this might be even more versatile than the gh6.. and more lovely bokeh from the larger sensor
the XH2S is APS-C right? That’s perfect for these lenses. Let us know how it turns out! You can also do this on the S1H in APS-C crop but it’s not the full 5.9K resolution.
@PhotoJoseph yes, its aps-c. Looking forward to trying it once the units starts shipping
i own the fuji XH2S and the sirui 24mm Anamorph and it shoots 6.2k Opengate
had to watch this video to enlighten myself about Open Gate
Thanks and great explanation
The quality of GH6 is outstanding!
Not too shabby for a little MFT, huh? ☺️
this video was amazing
Thank you!! I really appreciate that
This is a sick concept; I started following you back when I first started filmmaking and now I do it for a living and have this little channel as my fun pass time.
I think we’re buying this lens to shoot cinematic shitposts now 😆
Thank you for making me part of your journey! That’s awesome 🤩
Anyone who thinks the mft is not up to standard for cinematic filming is just incompetent.
You nailed it again bro. Very thorough and well thought out presentation.
Thank you man. Yeah MFT rocks.
Beautiful footage! This was fascinating. I’ll definitely be bookmarking this video as reference for my next trip out with anamorphic
Sweet, and thank you!
I usually set my S1H to a 3:2 open gate profile and use my Ninja V to record a pillarboxed UHD ProRes file. Having prores and 4:2:2 are preferred to the extra pixels for my workflow since I always deliver HD.
Fair enough. The S1H can also do RAW, in APS-C in about 3.5K, which is how I shot the talking head scenes.
@PhotoJoseph I love the style of those shots. Is that the 27mm Nanomorph lens on the talking head parts?
@Sam Sitar yep, the 27mm about 3ft away
Great vid! These are the things I think about all day every day even when I’m sleeping
Hehe fantastic. Welcome to the club 😁
Great info Joseph. What do you use for your ambiance lighting and rim light…. Oh wait a second, I see it IN THE FRAME OF YOUR VIDEO! 😁😛
LOL you can’t see the key but it’s a huge octabox just out of frame
very helpful thanks @photojoseph !
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The way you did those graphics was very helpful.
The way you explain it was on point. Very informative 👏🏾 👌🏾 👍🏽
Awesome, thank you!
@PhotoJoseph thanks for thinking outside the box and making this video. Just bought the GH6 and the two widest Sirui MTF anamorphic lenses. Look forward to finding out why you and others were in Japan. Has to be more than just the new 12-35mm zoom
Glad you enjoyed the video and enjoy those SIRUI lenses! Anamorphic is so cool.
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Am I the dumb boss? That’s nice.
I wish open gate on 5.8k wasn't limited to only 200 mbit for internal recording, considering 4.4k has an unnecessary big crop. Buying an additional recorder like the atomos ninja V+ just for open gate recording when you can do most other things fine with the GH6 internally doesn't add up to me personally, considering the price of the recorder itself when you don't really use it for professional work to justify the usage of it. 400 mbit or more would already be much better for such a great feature
It comes down to processing power. Nothing is limited unnecessarily. Processing that much data and recording it to high bitrate All-I takes resourses. The camera does not have unlimited power!
@PhotoJoseph True. Considering how capable it alredy is, that's easy to forget.
I'll take my words back on the limitations.
I wish I could afford a GH6 I have a LUMIX G7
It’s $500 off right now… never a better time! https://geni.us/LumixGH6
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Great video! I don't have a GH6, but fascinating stuff nonetheless!
Thanks for watching! Now's the time to get one… GH6 is $500 off! (link in description)
@PhotoJoseph Thank you - and yes, the GH6 looks great - but I'm currently waiting for a new S series camera to be announced....which reminds me, how was Tokyo? ;)
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