Switching to Micro Four Thirds; the Commercial Shoot That Convinced Me
Photo Moment - February 02, 2017
PhotoJoseph used to be a (as he calls it) “Full Frame Snob”. A friend of his let him borrow some of his cameras, and amongst them was a micro four thirds Olympus camera…and after playing with it, Joseph was converted.
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I've had a lot of comments about the grain and wanted to address that, plus add something that I realize I never discussed. First, the grain was an aesthetic choice I made. I added grain to every image to make it more grungy and analog, which was quite the opposite of what everyone else was doing. This was also 2013, the early years of Instagram when any "old film look" was cool. And I was well rewarded… my images consistently got the most likes of the group. However there's one more point I hadn't mentioned that in retrospect is quite important. In this video we are looking at the images on a large screen and I will agree that many are overly grainy. However these were edited, and delivered, on an iPhone screen. Think about that; the amount of grain seen on a large screen scales down with everything else and if he grain isn't pronounced, becomes invisible. I didn't have to worry about editing on a big screen to deliver on a small; I did both on a small screen. Which means that I added the grain that I felt I wanted for that size. Blown up to a big computer screen, yeah, they are overly grainy. Look at them in an iPhone though and it's a different story.
I hope that helps clear things up, and informs the grain haters why they look the way they do.
In the end… Mercedes-Benz loved them, the audience loved them, and we grew the account over 100k people to push past the half million mark in the week we had the control of it. And that's what matters.
I hope that helps clear things up, and informs the grain haters why they look the way they do.
In the end… Mercedes-Benz loved them, the audience loved them, and we grew the account over 100k people to push past the half million mark in the week we had the control of it. And that's what matters.
+JUZ TRAILERZ Do let us know how it works out for you, good or bad please. Thanks!!
+JUZ TRAILERZ As far as I know it works just fine. Smaller and less powerful than the Panasonic but it does seem to work. I'll eventually do a review on these but not anytime soon. I think it's a safe buy.
PhotoJoseph Hi, awesome video instant sub. After some research, I bought myself a Lumix GX7 used about a month ago with a 12-35mm 2.8 version one. Love that little thing, I've taken some great pictures with it even in low light. I'm not a pro photographer just a hobbiest who wanted to take better pics than with the cellphone. Though I feel the need to buy a flash to up my game. I've been looking into flashes that work with my camera and came across the godox tt350o. It claims to work with olympus and panasonic but I have not yet found a video review of the unit. I've seen reviews of the tt350s which is the version for sony cameras. Am impressed with the performance of it. Do you know anything about this flash. I dont wanna spend the money just to find out it doesn't work. Thanks.
Like the content. I do wonder if you could talk a little slower..? Hard to hear all your words..
Joseph, I have a question. The prints you show at the beginning of this video, are they acrylic prints or metallic prints or what?
Neither, those were just regular mounted prints
I was at the Canon booth in CES, asking questions on indoor sports shooting, I had bought their best camera at the time. After a while the sales rep said, “ put it on P and press the Fing button.” That is Canon service !
@@photojoseph Lumix does it right !
coming back to this video in 2020, i think i'm finally going to make my switch to m43. thoughts on the olympus pen-f for portraits and street?
maybe a 75mm ? what would you say is a good go to camera for portraits in the m43 line up?
@@photojoseph what is your go to m43 camera ? i love the monochrome from m43
The Pen F is interchangeable lens, right? So, that depend on the lens.
@@photojoseph would you say it can be usable for portraits as well?
The Pen has always been a great choice for street photography.
I love my gh5, use it for everything!
Nice! M43 delivers in so many ways. I'd love to see a blind test showing images from all sensor sizes. Anyway, it's nice to hear your M43 origin story.
Thanks Chris, and nice chatting today
3yrs and I still love this video. This was and still is one of several videos about photography that I've come back to several times.
I'm looking at getting the Nikon Z 50.
I find it crazy 😂 how reviewers are ripping it and you were using this camera 3 years ago. I'd assume these shots would still be approved today by Mercedes.
I'm looking at getting the Nikon Z 50.
I find it crazy 😂 how reviewers are ripping it and you were using this camera 3 years ago. I'd assume these shots would still be approved today by Mercedes.
Thank you, and you’re right, they would 😁
I don’t give a shit about the gear your using, but I do think you showed some stunning images. Haven’t done any photography for a while and can get a GX80 for peanuts these days!
Thank you! I appreciate that and yes, the GX80/GX85 is an absolute bargain right now. Cheers!
Maybe others have mentioned this before but: Your videos are too long. I'm sure you'd get a lot more viewers and subscribers if your videos were 10minutes maximum. Use editing and a pre-written script to synthesize every topic and idea discussed. Jump cuts are actually encouraged in Youtube videos and reviews.
@@photojoseph hahaha, great response mate :)
EDIT: Make sure to study your videos in Youtube Analytics. You'll have all kinds of info there; from the age of your viewers, to their location. One important thing to watch out for is the amount of the video viewers actually watched...Youtube will tell you if they watched the whole thing, or skipped forward because they got bored, or the video was too long. Videos that get watched from start to finish with no skipping, will usually get suggested a lot more by Youtube's algorithm.
This channel has a lot of potential to grow and you're a pretty great at doing these videos. You have character and a very unique way of talking and expressing yourself. Read a bit about how Youtube works, and watch videos made by other Youtubers on how to grow your channel. There are some incredible tips out there, and the Youtubers that have followed them have exploded in a short amount of time (pure luck) or have continued to grow slowly but progressively. Keep up the great work, and I wish you lots of luck and success :)
EDIT: Make sure to study your videos in Youtube Analytics. You'll have all kinds of info there; from the age of your viewers, to their location. One important thing to watch out for is the amount of the video viewers actually watched...Youtube will tell you if they watched the whole thing, or skipped forward because they got bored, or the video was too long. Videos that get watched from start to finish with no skipping, will usually get suggested a lot more by Youtube's algorithm.
This channel has a lot of potential to grow and you're a pretty great at doing these videos. You have character and a very unique way of talking and expressing yourself. Read a bit about how Youtube works, and watch videos made by other Youtubers on how to grow your channel. There are some incredible tips out there, and the Youtubers that have followed them have exploded in a short amount of time (pure luck) or have continued to grow slowly but progressively. Keep up the great work, and I wish you lots of luck and success :)
Most of my new videos are considerably shorter. But considering this one is one of my most watched videos ever, I’m gonna call this rambling one a success. I do more than provide information; I tell a story.
I have been shooting 4/3 and m43 for many years(from e-500 to Pen F), I always want to try full frame but m43 always satisfy me, finally, switched to Sony full frame last year, more heavy and less beautiful photos shots, probably will back to m3/4 when E-M5 iii released, full frame has a great advantage that m3/4 can’t archive, that’s pixel peeping, if you don’t pixel peeping, m3/4 is everything you needed.
It is hard to go past an Olympus, isn't it?
Well, not really… I’ve been shooting Panasonic for years now ;-)
Keep up the Great work.... Your channel is a breath of fresh air. I too use to be a FULL FRAME snob. I still have my Sony Cameras but I find that for 95% percent of my work Micro-Four third Cameras are MORE than enough!
Just watching again. I really would like the model of the Oly and whether you have upgraded to the E-M1 MkII or M1X by now?
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That was years ago… even when I recorded this I’d already switched to LUMIX. I’m now a LUMIX ambassador and use G9, GH5, GH5S and S1
At video 12:25 about the top down shot, not only about the tilting LCD but the great M43 stabilisation to hold the camera one handed when a FF DSLR in the same situation would have blurred the shot from hand movement ...
I guess your clients enjoy lots of grain. I've had several Mft cameras as well, and indeed they do some things very nicely. However with time I'm now more enthralled with cameras that can shoot at ISO12,800 and look like it was shot at ISO400. The new Panasonic S1 full frame is one I'm going to be trying which from all reviews appears to be the winner thus far.
Im looking ro get into photography. I am a total newbie and i would like to focus on nature and wildlife also some landscape. How are micro 4/3 for these areas? Want to stay under $600 to start any suggestions. I was looking at olympus omd 10 mark 2 any suggestuons would be appreciated. I want to stay as small and light weight as possible for going on hikes.
At that price point buy used. You'll get much better gear for the money. And remember that the lens is more important than the body, and they age better too (meaning you can buy an old lens no problem as long as it isn't scratched)
Dslrs are very inconvenient to use and ugly looking as well
Can you do a 10 minute foto challenge
Hi Joseph! Have you had speedlight setup in the Car? What are the lights coming from the inside of the car?
No speedlights; it’s just the interior lights of the car. Thanks for the question!
I am just a guy who loves taking photo's and I have to say for the price and what is packed into the body... the GX85 rocks like no other (opinion).
I couldn't understand what all the hype was about with the new Lumix GX/TX/ZS and G 4K cameras... Now I know... and its M43.
Great video.
I couldn't understand what all the hype was about with the new Lumix GX/TX/ZS and G 4K cameras... Now I know... and its M43.
Great video.
I don't know why this Feb '17 video popped up on my main YouTube page now (probably because I'm viewing lots of M43 vids), but it's really helpful. Hopefully you are still all-in on Four Thirds cameras and posting stuff about the newer products like the G9. Anyway, good job and I like how you can talk to a camera and feel like you are talking to me as we have a beer together.
Thanks! And yes that’d be exactly why it popped up. I’m still shooting LUMIX and have a ton of videos up in the G9, GH5, GH5S and more. Enjoy!
Great Story....I could listen 5h without 1min. to be bored. I ordered Yesterday a G9 and shot 6 Years no MFT.
Right on! Nice to see you on the channel :-)
Derek Ting! Is this Derek from Hong Kong?
Re the GX8, have you ever experienced shutter shock with it?
Fast forward to Sep.-2018.
Photo hobbyists are excited by release of series of "full-frame" mirrorless camera by various makers.
I think they are excited by it because they haven't had opportunity to own full frame DSLR.
On the other hand, sales of DSLR in general is in constant decline.
I think the camera makers are in desperate effort to save the high end market so they decided that It's the "mirrorless" part that will save the market(prices aren't that much different from full frame DSLR).
I think the high end non-professional will eventually come to the same conclusion that pros had come to and will eventually switch to smaller mirrorless, (MFT and APS-C alike).
In other words, full frame will cater to very small market, much the same way as medium format and large format do today.
Photo hobbyists are excited by release of series of "full-frame" mirrorless camera by various makers.
I think they are excited by it because they haven't had opportunity to own full frame DSLR.
On the other hand, sales of DSLR in general is in constant decline.
I think the camera makers are in desperate effort to save the high end market so they decided that It's the "mirrorless" part that will save the market(prices aren't that much different from full frame DSLR).
I think the high end non-professional will eventually come to the same conclusion that pros had come to and will eventually switch to smaller mirrorless, (MFT and APS-C alike).
In other words, full frame will cater to very small market, much the same way as medium format and large format do today.
I got the D750 with Nikkor 20mm f1.8!at f4 or higher you actually need a tripod for most pictures unless its in full sunlight!the in body stabilization is pretty cool and nice to look at on various Olympus OM-D cameras!Getting the OM-D E-M 10iii in april/march for video since the D750 got bad autofocus and not very nice options filming settings!
I shoot weddings with a 5mp point and shoot from 10 years ago (with a scratched lens). The clients love my pictures! DSLRs are useless.
Hi, I’m looking for they smallest micro 4/3 camera, Panasonic has. I came across the Panasonic gm 1 and 5 but can seem to only find them on eBay in the international versions plus I would like the the camera to have image stabilization, and 4K brush mode. Which Panasonic would you recommend?
Yes, the GX85 does have 4K Photo mode. If you buy one, please use my affiliate link, thanks! https://kit.com/PhotoJoseph/as-seen-on-photo-moment/1187124-panasonic-lumix-gx85
You’re talking about “4K Photo Mode” right?
PhotoJoseph sorry, I meant 4K photo burst mode. I’m not much into video, I’m more into photography, and I love the 4K photo burst mode in my Panasonic zs100. I’m looking for a slightly larger sensor that is still very compact.
“4K brush mode”? If you mean video, then check out the GX85. It has everything you want (and is still my favorite travel camera)
watching this now. "Focus-tracking on the GH5 is going to be awesome".. well, it IS fast..
You deserve way more subscribers! Your way of speaking spontaniously yet somewhat to the point, I just love listening to it. Awesome video!
A bit late to ask on such an old video, but was wondering. Why did you switch from the Olympus to Panasonic ?
That, is a decent explanation :D thanks
Because I was buying more lenses from Panasonic than Olympus, and I was getting more interested in video.
Hey bro do you have the gh4 kit?
So, I’m not totally sure what you mean by “kit”. Here’s a link to the camera itself https://bhpho.to/2lEblbN but since it’s not a current model (that’d be the GH5), I don’t have a complete “kit” created in a store. If you visit http://kit.com/PhotoJoseph you’ll find my collections of various recommended gear. I hope that helps.
PhotoJoseph I was seeing if I can see your link for your GH4 kit
Sorry, the link to what? I’m confused. You bought a GH4 but want a link to the GH4?
PhotoJoseph can I see the link? I'm a Filmmaker and a photographer I'm very new to this industry. I just brought the gh4
Too much talk. Cut this down to 5mins and you'll have cracked it.
Oh yeah, this totally could have been a five minute show 🙄
Did Mercedes commend you for capturing that unique overhead image of the SLS?
I wonder if any of PhotoJoseph’s images made it to print.
Most memorable for me are the overhead of the SLS plus the bonnet Mercedes Star with motion blur and finally the tunnel image. Really nice. 👍🏼
I wonder if any of PhotoJoseph’s images made it to print.
Most memorable for me are the overhead of the SLS plus the bonnet Mercedes Star with motion blur and finally the tunnel image. Really nice. 👍🏼
I assumed some of the images might have made it into a Mercedes brochure or a car magazine or some other related publication.
Thanks! I printed a couple but Mercedes-Benz didn’t. I’m glad you liked them so much!
THANKS. I'm very impressed that you used four thirds cameras on commercial work. In a couple years I will retire and I want to freelance doing commercial photography. My camera kit is two Nikon crop sensor cameras with several lenses. I do not want to invest in full frame cameras--too expensive. I will consider four thirds for video. I heard four thirds have a lot of features for video. I like the savings on both crop sensor and four thirds cameras.
Yes, in video MFT really shines!
11:01 what car is that???
I have driven that car on movie set no I !am not Steve Bucemi
Great presentation Bruce Lee Vacaville ca
Just catching up on some of your old episodes. Curious, what camera do you use to shoot the show?
With respect, it isn't like asking a mechanic what type of wrench they use. If a client asked me what equipment I used, I'd just tell them. But hey we're all different. And I'm not a pro photographer..... not good enough probably.
Cheers Joseph. Thanks for replying. IMHO most clients won't be narrow-minded enough to make the equipment used their primary yardstick.... come on, let's not assume that they're dumb. But if they know of 2 or 3 excellent photographers, they might be interested in the kitbag also.
I'm just saying we shouldn't dismiss a client question as ignorant. If they ask a question, just give them the answer.
(Bad spelling corrected).
I'm just saying we shouldn't dismiss a client question as ignorant. If they ask a question, just give them the answer.
(Bad spelling corrected).
It’s exactly like that. The problem is (following your analogy), many customers believe that one brand wrench will make their car run better than another, instead of worrying about the mechanic ;-)
I'm not wasting 30 minutes of my life watching some "Instagram Photographer's opinion on a camera system".
I know you gotta make a living, but I'm not using "grungy grainy film looks" just because that's a trend in instagram this year, thank you.
I'd rather develop my own identity.
I know you gotta make a living, but I'm not using "grungy grainy film looks" just because that's a trend in instagram this year, thank you.
I'd rather develop my own identity.
Yep, you always shoot to the client's brief.
+Guilherme Mauricio I did the grain look for that reason, yes. When producing commercial work for a paying client, you follow the trends that get the views. The video is about my switch to micro four thirds, and if that’s what you’re looking for info on, I’m sure you’ll appreciate the video and insight. And apology accepted 😊
PhotoJoseph I'm sorry for having been kinda troll, but you look for a video expecting reasonable opinions on a camera system and the first thing you read up on the comments is the author saying "I did it because it was trendy in Instagram", and that sadly ruins everything. I wish you very well, though.
+Guilherme Mauricio LOL but you’ll take the time to comment on it to tell me why you won’t watch me. Good. Incidentally I’m not some Instagram photographer… with only 3,000 followers I most certainly am not that. However I am a successful commercial photographer, so you can take that for what it’s worth. And no one is trying to tell you what your identity should be… sheesh.
Anyway welcome to the channel. It’s kind and caring comments like yours that make the internet a wonderful place to be.
Anyway welcome to the channel. It’s kind and caring comments like yours that make the internet a wonderful place to be.
Great story! I think M43 is kind of dying out now that Fuji is so big, but they're still nearly the same thing. I just love how much you can do with this small mirrorless cameras! My biggest problem with M43 is there's no camera with all manual controls like Fuji's. Olympus WAY overcomplicated their retro bodies and it's really sad, they look so good else than that
+Clacking Computer Is that a joke? Micro four thirds is most definitely NOT dying out. Sales increasing every year my friend.
Just found you........Sorry
You made this video in February 2017
I am wondering other than being sponsored by Lumix
don't you think that the OMD EM1 MKII is a better Photo Camera over the GH5 ?
If Not can you explain why
I am about to pull the trigger on the Olympus or Lumix and need your opiniion (For photogrphy not Video please)
You made this video in February 2017
I am wondering other than being sponsored by Lumix
don't you think that the OMD EM1 MKII is a better Photo Camera over the GH5 ?
If Not can you explain why
I am about to pull the trigger on the Olympus or Lumix and need your opiniion (For photogrphy not Video please)
+GraphX Shop I’m honestly not familiar enough with the OMD. I know it’s a great camera, no doubt, but I couldn’t tell you how it compares, sorry.
Joseph I’m really interested in the Panasonic G85 for video can you tell me anything You think I might need to know vs The Gh4 or GH5 video wise?
+Mychal Simmons GH are pro series cameras, with things like true 24p, variable frame rate (slo motion) recording, unlimited recording time (not sure if the G85 has that or not), and in the case of the GH5, 4K60p with 10-bit and 422 400Mbit options, and a superior sensor and processor combination.
So glad I found someone who is a pro and switch to the micro 4/3 system. I recently bought the em1 mark ii because I believe to will suit my needs better then the others. But I have my dad on the other hand which he thinks that the I need to have a full frame, I just think he's not ready for the change and how powerful something so small can beat his canon 7d mark i
+Gordon Tovell There you go! I love this system.
Buying a em1 mark 2 might buy it in Feb Christmas maybe a 25mm lens pro
GH5 has a flip out screen, for sure. It's exactly the same style as the OMD. LUMIX also has dual image stabilization (in-body plus in-lens). Any like with Panasonic, anything you hear about the Olympus mk 3 is probably speculation. I will tell you that going to 8K is likely not technically possible with a micro four thirds sensor, at least not if you want any low light performance at all. Just something to think about! But again, either way, both fantastic cameras. Good luck and enjoy!
PhotoJoseph the gh5 has 6k video and 6k? Photos . but olympus has a flip out screen for selfies and image stabilization and what esle? Lol I think I'm just gonna buy em1 mark 2 and upgrade to em1 mark 3 which will have 8k video?
Sweet! That's a great camera… I'm obliged to tell you to take a close look at the LUMIX GH5 as well, but there's no doubt that the EM1 is a fantastic camera.
Great video! Ever since I got my Olympus I have not shot with anything since. The technology of these new m43 cameras seem to be so underrated.
As a general rule the smaller the image sensor the smaller the lens and the camera body. The micro 4/3 image sensor is much bigger than one inch sensor and not very much smaller than an APS-C sensor.
The micro 4/3 cameras of Olympus/ Panasonic are quite small and they have affordable with great quality lenses. Of course a full frame camera is essential for any serious photographer but when size and weight is an issue then micro 4/3 is the best solution.
The micro 4/3 cameras of Olympus/ Panasonic are quite small and they have affordable with great quality lenses. Of course a full frame camera is essential for any serious photographer but when size and weight is an issue then micro 4/3 is the best solution.
+Achilleas Labrou I was enjoying your comment until you said "of course full frame is essential for any serious photographer". So you're saying I'm not a serious photographer? I'm like to think my client base would disagree… and I'm assuming you actually watched this video?
Very interesting, I have been using M4/3 with video Panasonic AGAF101E & am very happy plus its very easy to switch lenses for various types with easy to find adaptors...Thanks from Cannes France.
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