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V60 vs V90 SD Cards ► Is V90 worth it?

Photo Moment - July 19, 2019

This video compares the ProGrade V60 to the V90 cards. V90 costs over 2x V60, so is it worth it? We compared both read and write performance between the two cards, additionally testing the new dual SD card reader from ProGrade. 

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Results summary

Write time to V60 vs V90V90 card cleared the camera's buffer 26% faster

Copying from SD card to 2015 MacBook Pro with USB 3.0, the ProGrade USB 3 reader was almost 40% faster than the built-in SD card reader. Using the dual card SD reader and copying multiple cards at once was just as fast as copying a single card.

Copying from SD card to 2018 Mac mini with USB 3.1, comparing V60 to V90, the V90 copied 33% to 39% faster than the V60. Copying dual cards simultaneously saw no performance hit; in fact copying two cards takes the same time as copying one card!

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What do you think… is it worth it to you to get V90 instead of V60 cards?
Yes, as well as buying "that expensive" lens instead of "cheap analog", etc. There's a Russian saying: stingy dude is always paying twice. Meaning - do a proper thing on the first take, you'll do it anyway at one of the iterations later, accruing more cost.
I like it :-)
Comparing 2 cards but didn't even show speed test results....
Thank you for reviewing. Just purchased two 256g v90 from ebay prograde-digital @$287.98 plus shipping. Bit worried about the reliability though..
why would you do that when it’s $240 new from ProGrade direct, and that’s before my discount geni.us/ProGrade
PhotoJoseph omg I thought the code is expired 😓
dude....thank you for redoing the video haha we have all felt that pain of not pressing record :.....(
haha thanks
So even if my Panasonic G7 only records at 100mbps then I should still go with the v90 basded on your test?
if the faster speeds copying from the card to the computer matter to you, then yes. If not, then that's unnecessary. 100mbps is only 12.5MB/s. V90 is 90MB/s is 720mbps… V60 is 60MB/s is 480mbps…V30 is 30MB/s is 240mbps. So even a V30 is fast enough to capture. It's the read time that may interest you. Or of course if you're shooting stills too, then the faster card will clear the buffer faster. All that said, the G7 can't utilize the extra speed of the UHS-II (double row of pins), so your performance will be limited there, too. Basically — don't bother ;-)
Thanks Great and helpful video, I really needed the low down. That being said B and H charges $319 for 2 cards and the PRO Grade website charges 360 so the 10 percent code is mute and mute. Just saying.
oh really… maybe that's why ProGrade just "upgraded" my discount to 20%! PHOTOJOSEPH20 is the new code (it's on the links, too).
i have one question. Is it okay to buy a v60 for 4K 60FPS 400MB/S? PLEASE ANSWER ME, I NEED A CLEAR ANSWER AND I CANT FIND ONE!!!
Yes, it is. It's important to understand the math and why V90 is still a better choice, so I recommend watching this video carefully, but yes, V60 will work for 400Mb/s video. V60 = 60MB/s. 400 Mb/s = 50MB/s, so it's close, but it's in range. Also remember that MB/s is megaBYTE per second while Mb/s is megaBIT per second. The capital vs lower case B/b makes a big difference! (type "unit converter" into google to get their built-in calculator)
ProGrade Digital 128GB UHS-II SDXC for V90 ($98.10) and two 256GB V60 ($152.00 for 2 cards). Since from the review, the V60 might be lack a bit but the price is so low and yet better than Sandisk sd card in both read and write speed. I will call bhphotovideo when the promotion is going to end and get them before the promotion ended. Thank you again.
Right on. Good luck! And be sure to check out buying direct from ProGrade — they are often doing promotions themselves (and I have a 10% discount code; see this link) https://geni.us/ProGrade
Thank you for the detail benchmark! Make my decision easier which one to buy.
Sweet! Which one?
@PhotoJoseph All my cards are Sandisk for years now after my Transcend and Samsung cards died on me while I also moving up to cameras that require higher data read and write. However, I noticed that Sandisk couldn't perform well with Sony A7RIII high speed shooting. It constantly buffering after it hit certain frames and less than what I am hoping for. I am using two Sandisk 256GB 170 MB/95MB minimum write speed of 30 MB/s thus V30. I will get two V60 and one V90. Time to switch.
Gottcha. The big thing is PEAK vs SUSTAINED speeds. Peak is just a marketing number; sustained is what really matters, but until the V numbers manufactures didn't market that (probably because they could get away without doing it).
@PhotoJoseph Yup, I started to notice that sometime ago. The main thing is to look for the V-rating which ensure the consistent transfer/shooting or read/write. The good news is some of the expensive V60 cards pricing are falling. However, only one or two V90 64GB and 128GB cards pricing are falling but the highest end cards remain the same.
Hard drives need to be defragmented because they can read data quickly if it's written as a continuous line. The read/write head stays in one spot as the platter spins underneath it. But if the data is fragmented, the read/write head has to move back and forth and wait for the next chunk of data to spin underneath.

Solid state media like flash drives don't have this problem. They can access all parts of storage at the same speed so it doesn't matter if the data is stored in physically continuous memory cells, or if it's all scattered around.
Correct, but according to ProGrade (and they know more than I do), read and write still becomes slower over time until you do a deep format.
I shoot pictures of moving airplanes and always have a problem of the shutter freezing after maybe 8 shots. I currently use an SD Card with 48MB/s read speed and the write speed is not specified (has a class 10 logo). Will me buying a card with V30 (although it says 70MB/s on the brochure) solve this issue? Or should I go get a V60. Thanks.
You didn’t say what camera or resolution but I’d say go V60. Get that performance.
Dude save yourself time just benchmark the cards with crystaldisk mark ;-D
Nope. Not real world. I like real world tests, not benchmarks.
@PhotoJoseph Your problem is, various speeds depending on card readers, and cameras. So real world isn't going to tie up for everyone. Even different computers have different USB speeds
Per usual, always so informative! In your opinion, for video, would you prefer? These ProGrade, or the Angelbird SD cards for recording at 400mbps?
i have the Angelbird PRO SD V60, had to return it and get a new one since my GH4 froze serveral times during 4K recording. The replacement one which i got directly from Angelbird (had to pay the shipping!) had the exact same issues.
Oh no! That’s not good. What do they say about that?
PRO GRADE!!! are "youtube" SPONSORED GOON CARDS!!!! Many youtuber's are promoting these cards!!! SHIT!!!
I’m sorry you feel that way. I couldn’t have made it any more clear that this was NOT a sponsored video. Of course I don’t actually care if you don’t believe me. It doesn’t change the fact that this isn’t sponsored. Hey, have a great day, ok? Sounds like you need one.
PhotoJoseph have you tried the prograde v60 card on a gh5 using 400Mbit All Intra
Burst rate.
If you fill the buffer, you're in trouble however fast the buffer clears. My 60D taught me that, now I just shoot short bursts, the buffer doesn't fill and there's always a bit more if I need it.
It all depends on what you’re shooting doesn’t it.
Thanks for a a good comparison.
For me with a G85 the slower cards are more than enough.
Could you link to the software for a PC to do a proper format of SD cards?
I disbelieve that statement, all that matters is the directory is reinitialised. Doesn't matter whether the rest of the card contains binary zeros or remnants of old images.
🤷🏼‍♂️ Is this a “belief”, as you’ve said, or do you have testing proof? Easy enough to find out. Compare an old, well used card before and after a clean format.
@PhotoJoseph I have 50 years experience with computers. Does that count for anything?
My experience has mainly been on system software including operating systems. I even learned a bit about hardware along the way.

One thing I don't understand iw why formatting memory cards in a computer is a nono, but I have seen it on Toshiba's website, and I have heard senior folk from SanDisk and Lexar, on a B & H podcast. Perhaps that program is OK, but I won't take a chance on it, I will follow the manufacturers' advice.

Is that plain enough?
50 years experience certainly counts for something 😉I will point out however that solid state memory is very different than spinning disk, and actually fragmentation is much LESS of a problem, but it is ProGrade that recommended the clean format occasionally to me. Some cameras (not many, but a few) will actually do a long/clean/full format in camera. Most do not. Formatting in the computer is perfectly fine; you just need to reformat it in the camera to ensure it has the right format/headers on the disk. Interesting that you've heard otherwise. Last thing I'll say is that it is worth testing, and I may do it.
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