I think I’m also out. After all the work learning what I need out of the complicated Photoshop (hours and hours of Deke McClelland on Lynda.com), I’m disappointed. I don’t feel I can justify/afford the monthly commitment. I’m only an amateur and making the jump from PSE to PS CS was a big decision. With CC, it’s a bit like crack, once you stop paying, the “high” immediately stops. I guess I’ll keep using PS CS 5.5 until it stops working well. For now it’s fine except Camera RAW is outdated for new cameras. But with Aperture, I rarely ever use Camera RAW.

The $149 upgrade fee I paid for previous updates every couple of years (I was a NAPP member) seemed reasonable. The CC monthly fee adds up to way more than that.

I heard the latest Acorn update is pretty good but I haven’t checked it out. I’m sure there will be another big learning curve to be able to do what I can do now in PS.

Frustrated by Adobe pricing for me goes all the way back to AP1.0 when I opted for that instead of lightroom. I recently bought cs6 PS but with plans on not upgrading in the near future. But… I can see that at some point Ill have to pay the cloud for PS to combine images. NAPP was great but became another monthly bill I didn’t really need. Lynda.com is great to catch new info on new program releases but it to becomes another bill to be paid. Im a commercial photog and I can write off the cloud so that helps a little with the expense. Except for my photography why cant everything else be close to free :-0

If Adobe kept more reasonable pricing for current users (i.e. extending the $10 a month upgrade beyond one year for current users), it’d be worth it.

I’m hoping that Apple has some major announcements at WWDC this June as respects to Aperture, iLife and iWork. Personally, I think they will be announcing updates on these. Related to this somewhat, the guy that created Soforbild has been working for a well known company in Cupertino since last year. Gotta wonder if he’s on the Aperture team.

I’m finding that I rarely go into Photoshop anymore, and rely more on Nik and onOne. PS gets used when text is needed or for content aware fill or move.

A couple things to note. First, future versions of Lightroom will continue to be sold as regular, perpetual, licenses. You can get it as part of Creative Cloud, but you don’t have to. Two, Adobe will continue to sell CS6 for the time being. If you don’t want to subscribe to Creative Cloud, again, you don’t have to, at least for now. They’ll also make sure CS6 is compatible with the next version of Mac OS X and Windows, so the software is good for at least the next few years.

See http://mobile.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/creative-business/adobe-kills… for details.

Like most of us here, I keep wondering when, if ever, Apple will deliver some newer version of Aperture. Sure, they’ve had periodic minor upgrades, but a real upgrade and boost in it’s features. I also use NIK plugins which work great with Aperture. I wouldn’t be surprised, now that Google owns NIK, that they may come up with something in the near future. My only fear is that the “subscription” model may be picked up by others as the modus operendi for all future photography software.

Florian I agree I think the subscription model is here to stay. Apple may adopt it. Off topic Id like to see in AP4 a rebuild feature where it reports or creates a log of images that slowed down the Rebuild process. Or at least which project there may be a corruption in so that we can export that project and reimport with our back up. Call it a “Potential Corruption Report” But as always be careful what we wish for. cheers

Butch, I agree with your point that this is more about Adobe’s bottom line than its customers’ benefit. The transition isn’t quite as harsh as first made out, though, and Lightroom is being treated a little differently.

Whether Lightroom 6 goes Creative Cloud only who knows, but it’ll be a tougher sell. The current upgrade price for Lightroom is $79 and a full version $149. That works out to about $7 and $12 a month, respectively. Price a subscription much above $10 and it becomes unpalatable, though the obvious strategy is to bundle it with some cloud only services and price it at, say, $20 a month.

Adobe did hint in a recent webcast with Scott Kelby that they are working on a more photographer specific function with their cloud that would include being able to use it on multiple platforms (laptop, iPad/tablet, smartphone) and be able to work on photos from whatever device you were on and it would show up on all of them. But that was something in the future and it did not appear to be the near future. I do not know if that would be a great enough incentive for the enthusiast photographer or not. I do have CS6 but I plan on not jumping in and subscribing to a monthly fee. For what I use it for, it is just fine now and and can’t forsee any extra bells and whistles pushing me to want more out of it. I will wait and see what happens over the next year, and as has been so aptly stated by DBmoore, we all need to keep our options open.

The demo was of an (apparently) alpha version of Lightroom for the iPad. it used LR5’s Smart Previews in order to do editing (rather than uploading full RAW images). it then was supposed to sync back to LR5 on the desktop. Again, ti was an early alpha preview, with no time frame commitment.

Again, I’m anxious to hear what Apple comes up with at WWDC.

Butch - Agreed on all counts. Apple’s iCloud service could easily be adapted to do the same thing (iPhoto for iPad kinda does this).

I rewatched that episode during lunch - Hogarty dodged a LOT of questions (which were finally answered yesterday at MAX). It remains to be seen what Adobe will do as far as a LR/PS Creative Cloud combo. He was definitely fishing last wee to see what people would buy into.

I’m out too, but a big CAVEAT. Apple really needs to take advantage of this huge market opening Adobe has delivered it on a silver platter with this insane money-grab policy. I really hope we see Apple put out an amazing Aperture update soon. There will be a sea of people headed to the Aperture shore. Can Apple do it? Will Apple do it?

There’s a really active thread on luminous landscape on just this topic. At least one person, Jeff Schewe, participates in the Lightroom private betas, and maybe Photoshop as well, so he’s got some insight into Adobe’s thinking.

Here’s the link: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=78085.0;topicseen

I’m also ditching Adobe and switching back from Lightroom to Aperture. I feel like the prodigal son.

I really want to switch back to Aperture but I still get way better results with lightroom. Apple only needs to change how they handle sliders and lens correction built in and I would be hooked. I only use PS for text so I’m hoping acorn has drop shadows (pixelmator still doesn’t) and I would use acorn for text and uninstall PS

WWDC is only a few weeks away. Patience young Padawan.

Aperture 3.3 was released at WWDC last year, It was something.

I am on the fence right now. Meaning I switch between LR and Aperture. However lately it has mainly been LR. Really like some of the new features in LR5 beta. Right now I am waiting to hear if there will be any announcements during WWDC next month about Aperture. If there are none I plan to move to Lightroom full time.

Stu

If Apple offers anything less in the round than a full, meaningful version update … it’s going to disappoint more than a few folks … 3.5 ain’t gonna cut it with most users …

WWDC is the right occasion, the right audience, and the right time to introduce Aperture 4. If it’s not ready then, you’ve got to wonder when it will be.