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Clarity/Definition slider in Photos? #1
Michael Severini's picture
by Michael Severini
April 5, 2016 - 7:19pm

Hello,

I am trying to determine if there is a Lightroom Clarity, or Aperture Definition like slider in Apple Photos. This would essentially be a mid-tone contrast slider.

Thanks,

Michael

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by PhotoJoseph
April 6, 2016 - 11:36am

There is a Definition slider, but I can't attest to how it compares to Aperture's.

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by Michael Severini
April 6, 2016 - 4:26pm

Thank you, I see it now. I am also wondering if you can adjust the white points like you can the blacks.

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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 7, 2016 - 4:28pm

Clarity is mid-tone contrast. Definition is clarity + structure. structure is some weird sharpening that brings out texture. Photos has 2 adjustment that allows u to adjust the white point. if u like sliders, Light adjustment brick has an exposure slider which is the white point adjustment in Photos. “Exposure” may mean different things in other apps, but in Photos, it's a white point adjustment. If you prefer using the Levels adjustment, there's a control handle on the lower right corner that also adjust the white point.

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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 7, 2016 - 4:37pm

To do a Clarity adjustment in Photos, use the Levels adjustments. Levels adjustment has 8 control handles. 1) move the upper left control to towards the middle. 2) move the upper right control handle to toward the middle. That's a Clarity adjustment.

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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 7, 2016 - 8:33pm

To increase Clarity, you do the opposite and pull the those handle outward.

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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 7, 2016 - 8:36pm

In seperate note, you can also adjust structure in Photos by adjusting the definition and clarity. To increase structure, increase definition and decrease clarity.

Robert Ke
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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 7, 2016 - 8:52pm

By the way, you can do most of the adjustments that Lightroom can do. For example, Lightroom has a split-tone adjust brick and Photos does not, but u can still do split toning in Photos. u can use the Level adjustment which allows to select the channel that will give you the toning you want. to tone the shallows, u drag the two control handles on the left. To tone the highlights, drag the right 2 control handles on the right.

Robert Ke
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by Michael Severini
April 20, 2016 - 3:54pm

Thank you all for your responses. This is helpful. 

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by Michael Severini
April 20, 2016 - 4:03pm

Hello Krakatoa, I have a question about mimicking a preset I have for Lightroom, in Photos. It appears you know Lightroom and Photos well. Post processing is not really my thing. I would like to ask you a question about this offline and I can’t figure out a way to send private messages through this forum. Please email me at mfseverini@gmail.com so I can ask the question.

Thank you,

Michael

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by Krakatoa Sundra
April 23, 2016 - 8:30am

I'm not a fan of presets so i haven't used them. The only presets i have used were the MacPhun presets. i add few of those as favorites so i access them fast. can we not take this conversation private? i feel other people may benefit and contribute to this conversation.

Here's the Lightroom adjustments not in Photos:

1. Tone Curves. one of my favorite tools because i can do any thing with it. Photos' Level is far more powerful than most level tools because Photos' level tool has 8 control points which gives very fine detail of control of L, RGB, R, G & B. However, there will be time you may need it. in that case, i'd go with Joseph's recommendation and get Polarr. Currently $0.99 at Mac App Store! (Polarr $0.99 Mac App Store. 95% off for another day)

2.) Split Tone. I previously explained it but if you want an adjustment that's labelled “Split Tone”, get Polarr on the Mac App Store ($0.99 until 4/24).

3.) Lens Correction. This is automatic for most lenses, however there may be sittuation where you need it. get Polarr at the Mac App Store ($0.99).

Some tools missing you for your adjustment:

1) Adjustment brushes. Rumored to be coming to Photos in next release.

2) Gradiant filter. get Polarr at the Mac App Store while it's still $0.99!!!!

3) Radial Filter. get Polarr at the Mac App Store.

4) Targeted Adjustment. Get Nik Collection. the control point work a lot better in my opinion. Quite honest, in my opinion, doing any effects, adjustments, B&W, I like Nik Collection better.

My plan is to move from Aperture to Photos because Photos is native to iOS and i do not want to have 2 system that are incompatible. I could use PowerPhotos to import and export libraries. I also will use an app called External Editors for Photos which allow me to use any editors from the extensions. it's $0.99 on the Mac App Store. I plan to use Affinity Photo when necessary which is rare because Photos is good enough for me 99% of the time.

Plus, i want to be able to upload & edit raw (still can't do do) to an iPhone or iPad while in the field so i can edit while i'm still look at what i'm shooting. My goal is to move my entire workflow to iOS!!!

Robert Ke
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by Michael Severini
April 27, 2016 - 5:57pm

Thank you! This is very helpful information and yes, good idea to keep the conversation public for everyone else’s benefit.

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by Kevin La Rue
May 6, 2016 - 2:37pm

And a fun new (free) Photos extension, Filters for Photos by Macphun. It does have brushes, masking for selective application as well. Check it out here.  

Cheers, Kevin

Kevin La Rue, Skylum

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