Wow - the new iPhoto for iPad looks pretty glorious for quick edits and portability. I wonder how it will integrate with Aperture? Any thoughts / info??
Good luck trying! Their server is generating errors from being overloaded this afternoon, been trying myself. The presentation on the new iPad iPhoto quite nice. I wonder if, or when, they might port Aperture, or a subset, over to the iPad.
I’ve been an Apple fanboy for about a decade, I have an iMac, a MacBook Pro and an iPhone 4, but until now I haven’t even been tempted to buy an iPad. Now I neeeed one. And a camera adapter. Quick question - are most RAW formats supported on iPad?
I have a few more questions that you may not be able to answer - yet. I’d like to know if I can post process a RAW image, save a JPEG version of it and then discard the original RAW? To save storage space, obviously. Or could I just wait for Photo Stream to upload the edited image as JPEG and then delete the RAW?
Sorry, my mind starts to wander when my tech craving is bad.
I’m not sure. I have the camera connection kit for my iPad 1, but haven’t used it much. I think with Photo Stream, as you suggest you could let the JPG upload then clear the RAW file.
I have been playing with it on my iPad 2 for the past 10 minutes and it is such a great tool. I have been using the images that i have on the pad already but if I can get an hour to myself tonight then I am going to try and see what I can do with it, aperture and the camera connection kit.
It does pick up my camera details and I know that the iPad already accepts my raw files from previous times using snapseed and the camera connection kit.
This though is what I thought they would launch as aperture (mobile) for the iPad. a way to organise your photos properly on the go. The one thing that is making me curious is the output resolution of the file when you have edited. whenever I have edited in other apps it returns about half the size of the original file resolution.
The 450D is a 12 megapixel camera, right? Which should be totally in line with what iPhoto can handle. Of course you’re on an iPad 2; I wonder if that has something to do with it?
And possibly stupid question, but you’re 100% sure that the photo you imported was in fact a full resolution RAW file, and not a small JPG or sRAW file?
Like Morten, I too have not owned a first or second gen. iPad … but I have the 3rd gen. on order! I’ve been waiting for that retina display ever since I saw it on the iphone 4.
It does seem that viewing/ editing RAW images on the iOS version of iPhoto is a fudge, where iOS does not render the RAW file; you’re looking at the embedded JPG preview.
And then exporting (to iTunes) is interesting: If you do not edit the photo in iOS iPhoto, on export the original RAW file is exported. However, if you choose to edit the file within iOS iPhoto, a JPG is exported and the RAW file won’t export. Interesting.
So I expect right now, iOS iPhoto could be best used as part of a workflow to view and flag images (without editing), and then export when home as flagged or favourite. Ideally, there’ll be a better way to export than through iTunes.
Of course, as a quick way of sharing - perhaps via a journal - it could be fabulous. But this is a an extra over normal workflow I think.
I think that we all have to remember that most of this stuff for the new iPad is built for the masses, and the masses don’t shoot RAW, they shoot JPEG. What I love about this new iPad (I’ve had an iPad original since they came out, my new iPad should arrive on the 16th) will be the ability to take pictures with a new iPhone 4s and the new iPad and work with those JPEGs to make them special. I really wouldn’t think about loading a whole series of RAW images from my 60D to the iPad for editing. Now, I could see being on a trip or special photo shoot someplace, and want to get a special picture or two posted on a blog or some service to share, but that goes back to most likely a JPEG. There will no doubt be an upgrade for Aperture and hopefully a Aperture app for the iPad soon. Tim Cook did say that there was going to be many more new things this year.
Tim,
I know what you do… and if I can manage to get an order placed for an iPad 3, in a little over a week I’ll be able to tell you more!
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Good luck trying! Their server is generating errors from being overloaded this afternoon, been trying myself. The presentation on the new iPad iPhoto quite nice. I wonder if, or when, they might port Aperture, or a subset, over to the iPad.
I’ve been an Apple fanboy for about a decade, I have an iMac, a MacBook Pro and an iPhone 4, but until now I haven’t even been tempted to buy an iPad. Now I neeeed one. And a camera adapter.
Quick question - are most RAW formats supported on iPad?
Morten,
I had to look that up. According to macworld.com, “Amazingly enough, the iPad supports the same raw files that your Mac does”.
That’s pretty awesome.
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Thanks Joseph,
I have a few more questions that you may not be able to answer - yet.
I’d like to know if I can post process a RAW image, save a JPEG version of it and then discard the original RAW? To save storage space, obviously.
Or could I just wait for Photo Stream to upload the edited image as JPEG and then delete the RAW?
Sorry, my mind starts to wander when my tech craving is bad.
Morten,
I’m not sure. I have the camera connection kit for my iPad 1, but haven’t used it much. I think with Photo Stream, as you suggest you could let the JPG upload then clear the RAW file.
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Well it is pretty worthless on an iPhone 4S! No integration with Aperture at this time as far as I can tell.
Calm thyself, kptkarl… obviously Aperture would need an update to integrate with any new apps.
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I have been playing with it on my iPad 2 for the past 10 minutes and it is such a great tool. I have been using the images that i have on the pad already but if I can get an hour to myself tonight then I am going to try and see what I can do with it, aperture and the camera connection kit.
It does pick up my camera details and I know that the iPad already accepts my raw files from previous times using snapseed and the camera connection kit.
This though is what I thought they would launch as aperture (mobile) for the iPad. a way to organise your photos properly on the go. The one thing that is making me curious is the output resolution of the file when you have edited. whenever I have edited in other apps it returns about half the size of the original file resolution.
Slightly disappointed now, I have used the iPad camera connection kit to import a photo here is the resolution I am getting from iPhoto:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6818855628_cb8621aa82_o_d.jpg
It also looks like I am editing the jpeg preview and not the raw, the resolution size looks like an iOS restriction.
Chris,
The 450D is a 12 megapixel camera, right? Which should be totally in line with what iPhoto can handle. Of course you’re on an iPad 2; I wonder if that has something to do with it?
And possibly stupid question, but you’re 100% sure that the photo you imported was in fact a full resolution RAW file, and not a small JPG or sRAW file?
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Chris: You are editing the preview. The “help file” is explicit. The iOS version of iPhoto imports raw but edits the embedded preview. Best.
Thanks Vidpixarts for sending that screenshot.
Chris, check the update I just added to the iOS iPhoto post.
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Cheers Vidpixarts, you can tell I tend not to read the manual for things ;)
Joseph here is the info from aperture on the exact same pic:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6965232383_3fa619034b_o.png
Chris,
Yep… and so it’s the JPEG preview. I wonder if any cameras produce larger previews?
Your preview is a little bigger than half size, but not exactly half (52.8% by my math). Curious size.
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Oh it’s also interesting that your screenshot from the iPad shows it as RAW with a line through it, and not just as JPEG!
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Like Morten, I too have not owned a first or second gen. iPad … but I have the 3rd gen. on order! I’ve been waiting for that retina display ever since I saw it on the iphone 4.
On iPhoto for iOS and RAW, see “Using RAW images with iPhoto for iOS” (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5182).
It does seem that viewing/ editing RAW images on the iOS version of iPhoto is a fudge, where iOS does not render the RAW file; you’re looking at the embedded JPG preview.
And then exporting (to iTunes) is interesting: If you do not edit the photo in iOS iPhoto, on export the original RAW file is exported. However, if you choose to edit the file within iOS iPhoto, a JPG is exported and the RAW file won’t export. Interesting.
So I expect right now, iOS iPhoto could be best used as part of a workflow to view and flag images (without editing), and then export when home as flagged or favourite. Ideally, there’ll be a better way to export than through iTunes.
Of course, as a quick way of sharing - perhaps via a journal - it could be fabulous. But this is a an extra over normal workflow I think.
I think that we all have to remember that most of this stuff for the new iPad is built for the masses, and the masses don’t shoot RAW, they shoot JPEG. What I love about this new iPad (I’ve had an iPad original since they came out, my new iPad should arrive on the 16th) will be the ability to take pictures with a new iPhone 4s and the new iPad and work with those JPEGs to make them special. I really wouldn’t think about loading a whole series of RAW images from my 60D to the iPad for editing. Now, I could see being on a trip or special photo shoot someplace, and want to get a special picture or two posted on a blog or some service to share, but that goes back to most likely a JPEG. There will no doubt be an upgrade for Aperture and hopefully a Aperture app for the iPad soon. Tim Cook did say that there was going to be many more new things this year.