hey folks the adventure that you're about to embark on is a five-hour long double header webinar two and a half hours over two days that i did for blackmagic on the ATEM Mini and pieces of its ecosystem there's chapter markers below but if you find something specific that you think should be bookmarked then please let me know in a comment with the timestamp and i'll add it to the official chapter list this is the second time i've done this long format webinar for blackmagic the first one also linked below has some overlap but also some additional pieces that aren't in this one such as chroma king so if you have the time of course watch both but start here listen one other thing before we get started i'm trying something new on this channel well new depending on when you're watching this and there's no guarantee that it'll stick but here's the deal i don't know about you but i really dislike being interrupted by ads when watching youtube videos but you know a guy's got to make a living 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get too far into this let's just make sure that everything is loud and clear gary who's on the line with me if you want to let me know that we are five by five or nine by nine or 12 by 40 or whatever it's supposed to be whoa suddenly you got very loud in my ear all right let me turn that down how that happened but excellent good we are good to go fantastic thank you very much everybody for attending today so this is the this is the basic plan we've got a two day webinar there's going to be two hours with some wiggle room today we've booked three hours on the calendar but it's marketed as two and so we'll just see i just want to make sure we had enough room for q a and all that good stuff if we go a little bit late and then we'll be repeating tomorrow tomorrow's not a repeat though just of the time tomorrow is a whole separate piece so let's let me go through some quick little slides to run through the agenda so you know what to expect what's going to be in store for you for the next couple of days and then we're just going to jump into the meat of this so with that said let's see if i got my slide set up right and the setup for this is it's kind of wack it's it's pretty cool um and i think at the end i'll kind of go through the whole thing that went into building all this because it is it's fun what you can do live and basically everything here is blackmagic hardware you know not the computers obviously but um but yeah all right let's just get into my little slides here showing up the side by side here we go of what's going on so um ATEM workshop by photojoseph that's me you can see the date at the bottom so if you're watching this later this is when it was recorded today is thursday october 21st all right here's the format of the show the plan of attack i want your questions i absolutely want your questions throughout it you're in a zoom webinar there are two different modules that you can use there is a q a module and a chat module if you have questions for me drop them into the q a module gary who has joined us from blackmagic and is on the line he will be coming on to uh to ask me your question so he'll be kind of going through those and maybe refining them maybe aggregating them so maybe your question exactly won't get asked the way it was but if a few people ask roughly the same question he'll reformat that and present that to me so we'll be going to gary for questions uh throughout the webinar throughout the presentation today if you just have chit chat you guys want to talk amongst yourselves by all means please do use the chat module for that there will be occasional water breaks potentially it's only two hours last time we did this it was four plus we'll see how it goes today but if i break out of here for a minute that's okay you'll know the agenda for today first off introduction to ATEM so i want to say as well that there's going to be if you saw the one that i did in june i think it was that was four plus hours all just straight through that kind of marathon adventure that one i'm going to be repeating some of that but i'm also going to be doing some of the things i didn't have time for then and taking a few slightly different approaches to a few things so some of this will be repeated if you have seen that june webinar and some of it will not but regardless i'm going to be starting off with the basics explaining what the hardware is and how it works and so on so that's going to be the starting point then we'll go into setup and switching basics i'm just going to show you we're going to be using primarily the ATEM mini extreme iso here and i'm going to show you how to do some basic configuration how to set things up how to set your inputs um how to switch cameras that sort of thing we'll have audio basics we'll be going into audio basics i didn't really touch on audio much at all last time so we're spending a little bit more time in there looking talking about audio we're going to talk a little bit about multi-screen options i'm not going to go super deep into this one because that is something i covered quite a bit in the other one plus i've done quite a few videos on this on my youtube channel but we will of course get into some of the basics of that we're also going to go into macros a little bit again not go super crazy deep because it's i mean you could have a four-hour webinar just on macros so we're not going to go super crazy there but we are going to talk about macros as well and we're also going to talk about camera control which is a pretty cool thing that you can do with the with the blackmagic hardware if you have the blackmagic pocket cinema cameras so we'll take a look at some of that some of that capability on here and that's day one that's today tomorrow we'll be getting into iso recording and b-raw recording so this means if you have multiple blackmagic pocket cinema cameras how you can record b-raw in those while simultaneously recording the iso stream from the blackmagic from the ATEM itself so we'll be going into all that and we'll even show you and resolve how to make that connection back to the source in b-ra that's tomorrow's agenda we will be so tomorrow's gonna be a lot of kind of external pieces tomorrow we'll also talk about the hyperdex both used as recording and playback modules and how those can tie into the ATEM ecosystem we will talk about the ATEM streaming bridge which is actually how gary is calling into me today he is streaming his signal to me over the streaming bridge and i'm pulling that into my ATEM we'll be talking about that we'll talk about the web presenter hd and 4k which curiously you don't actually need if you're using any of the atom models that have built-in encoding on them but it is an interesting component to talk about for different types of workflows that you might want to use so we'll we'll be getting into that as well also third-party stuff tomorrow i'm going to talk about bit focus companion which is a free open source service software service that runs on your computer that allows you to control all kinds of things including the ATEM and with that you can do some really awesome stuff as far as controlling multiple things even multiple ATEMs multiple hardware at once with a single button touch so i'm going to be talking about that and that's actually how i'm running all the switching for today's show is through that and the elgato stream deck i've got one sitting right here all of my buttons on this are running through companion and are all programmed to do all the different things that i need them to do so we'll be talking about that tomorrow and then we'll also tomorrow be talking about memo live which is a third-party app that runs on your mac and it allows you to do all kinds of switching and stuff on its own but the way that i'm using it is that i'm using it to generate titles do screen sharing do all kinds of cool things from that and then sending that signal out over the ultra studio 4k mini which actually the coolest thing about that is i can do what's called a dual stream sdi where i get both a a picture a fill and a map so i get things like this i can bring up where we've got well now it's on text on top of it but i've got a little logo that pops up on the screen that is being run by that through the dual sdi link setup so that is that agenda all right with that said let me um let's get out of this go back to this view let me give you a very brief tour of the setup today and then we're going to start going into the ATEM itself so uh let's see here get this all set so we've got the a camera this wide camera that we're on right now i'm gonna i'm doing all the switching myself and so i may end up not doing a lot of switching to some of these angles because you know this is the main one we got a tight one there if i get bored and just want to switch camera angles there i also have an overhead camera which is going to be important for showing some of the stuff that's happening down here i've got a close-up camera so we can see the back of the ATEM and anything i want to hold down here and show you up close we'll do that and then i've got a side view which doesn't show much right now because this stuff is deliberately turned off we're going to be coming back to that as we go um and then we're going to we've got my computer hooked up and there's a bunch of other things plugged in as well but that is how all that goes so we are going to be starting off with the introduction to the ATEM itself and for that the way i'm going to start this is by explaining the lineup the different ATEM hardware devices that you have the option to get into and and then we're going to get into a tour of the actual hardware itself so let me get my slides up here um here we go and this is this is just the blackmagic website i'm just to show you the five current ATEM minis now note i specifically pointed out these are the ATEM minis because there's a whole other ATEM lineup as well we're we're working with the ATEM Minis today on camera i'm actually running one of the larger ATEMs in the background that's kind of behind the scenes of all this but everything that we talk about today or maybe not everything but most things we talk about today uh will work across all the ATEMs however we are specifically going to be working with one of the ATEM minis so we've got the ATEM mini mini pro mini pro iso extreme and the extreme iso so just to kind of uh to go through the lineup so at 300 this is the most base model this is the one that started it all and i will i will say that this was when this came out it was revolutionary at this price point nothing existed at this 300 price point that allowed you to do the switching and has scalars built in if you go back two plus years ago now and you watch the original video that i did on this my mind was like completely blown the whole time because we had scalars on each input and what this means is that you can feed in different sizes and frame rates of video into the ATEM and the atm will scale them accordingly to whatever you need so you can choose in the ATEM whether you're doing a 1080 show at 24 frames per second or 30 and so on and so you can change that in the hardware but the fact that you can have them scaled have all the inputs scaled that was huge and i recognized that for today you're looking at like okay so just scales whatever no big deal right you have to understand that prior to that you could spend well over 500 on a single scaler and this had four of them built in it was only 300 so this was a real shift in the industry when this happened and then blackmagic just kept on adding things after that so the next step was the ATEM mini pro and what this added was the ability to live stream from the ATEM itself so you could actually stream to youtube facebook or whatever from the hardware itself it added the ability to record your show with a attached usb drive and it gave you something called multi-view and multi-view is when you see all the different inputs into your camera at once so that was an absolutely huge step up and then the next step up was the iso the ATEMi pro iso which only really added one thing but it was an absolutely huge thing to add and that was the ability to record all of your inputs simultaneously and that's what we have today the safe 10 x uh mini extreme iso the bigger version of this but you have the ability to to record all of your inputs at once not only record all your inputs and your program by the way your program is the actual show that the audience sees but you also got a get a xml file that opens up in davinci resolve that has all of your camera angles on it and this is something we're going to be looking at tomorrow but that was added with that with that iso version and then blackmagic went and upped the game again and they added two more to the lineup the ATEM mini extreme and the extreme iso the first of all added more input so it doubled from four to eight inputs but then it also and the difference between these two being this one records the iso streams and this one does not it's really the only difference between them but not only did you get more inputs you gained quite a few features but one of the most important ones is something called supersource supersource is the ability to position multiple elements on screen wherever you want without it you're limited to a picture and picture which you can get pretty creative with how you do a picture in picture but with supersource you could have multiple inputs at once four inputs at once that you can position anywhere on screen plus a back plate that you can have the background that you can have in there as well so it's really five things on screen at once and then you can actually add upstream keys on top of that if you want to get really crazy but all of that is possible in the extreme so if you think about a program like you know gary don't worry about switching on your audio but i'm just going to switch over to you for a moment here like here i have a layout where it's me and gary on screen this is supersource and you'll see that my position has moved off to the side and it's cropped and it's got a little border and we're bringing gary in as well and that is built through supersource so that's something got added to the extreme so there's the basic lineup of those models and then if you scroll down farther on this webpage then you get into the really big boys so the ATEM1mm 2me and 4me this 2me is what i'm running on right now this is my main production system it is a 4k capable it's got what is it 20 inputs in it it's you know awesome and then you got the constellation which is even bigger that has uh who was it 40 i guess it's 40 inputs if that's 20 this one must be 40 inputs and it can handle 8k video so you're doing 8k productions and then you've got things like these boards that can control them which is i mean can you imagine sitting in front of this thing it's like my dad used to say it looks like darth vader's bathroom what are you going to do with all these buttons but it's pretty impressive to have this kind of control and then you know if you just want to go super big you can go for the full-on 4mb advanced panel i mean seriously i think i'd have a heart attack sitting in front of that but this is this is the ATEM lineup so it starts this is the crazy impressive part it starts at 300 yes okay fine the constellation 8k is ten thousand dollars and the the for me advanced panel is another nineteen thousand dollars but it starts down here at a little baby price of three hundred bucks so that is like all of that is just crazy awesome that you have this and as you upgrade the fun part is about these if you do buy a smaller one and you upgrade you don't necessarily have to get rid of the old ones you can tie them together so literally today's presentation is being run through so i got an ATEM mini on my desk i got an atom mini in the rack i got an atm 2me in the rack so those are the three that i normally for everyday production i'm using and then of course we have the fourth one the atomic stream iso that is sitting up on the desk here so there's there are definitely ways to tie them all together that get um that get pretty cool okay so there's kind of the overview of of what they are of the lineup um let's go into this one specifically and talk about the different inputs on it we're going to start with what you feed into it so looking at the back here the row you can see there one through eight of the inputs themselves or the hdmi inputs so let's just kind of talk about that for a moment stepping back a little bit a overall picture of what this hardware is i would imagine anybody watching this at this point knows what the whole point of all this is but just to be sure we're all on the same page the idea behind the ATEM at its core is it is a switcher a live video switcher you feed in live video inputs from cameras from computers from wireless inputs from anything you want anything that has an hdmi out can be fed into however many inputs you have so in a small one four on this one eight on the really big ones 20 or 40. you're feeding in that input and then you're switching i want to see camera one camera two camera three camera four you're just switching between all those inputs that's what the ATEM is at its core on top of that it's things like audio control and the picture in picture and the scaling and the super source and all that other stuff but at its core that is basically what it is it is a switcher so you feed in one input feed in two inputs feed in three inputs and switch between them that's what we get out of this okay so with that said now looking at these inputs this one has eight of them that you can feed in and switch to the ATEM mini extreme let's just start all the way over here if we look at the left hand side you can see that's my left you can see there's a headphone jack and two microphone inputs on there so let's talk about that for a moment the headphone jack was also something was added to the extreme does not exist on the smaller ones the headphone jack allows you to monitor your program program being what is going out to the audience we when we get into the audio setup we'll talk a little bit more about it because you can actually solo any individual input but the idea here is that you can hear what's on air at this point you're not talking about using it as you yourself on air this is more like i'm running a live show i'm not on air i'm running the show that's over there plug in the headphones and i can hear everything that's happening to ensure that my audience is hearing what i expect them to hear the quality is good they're getting the right inputs et cetera so having that headphone jack is super important now i will say that on the smaller ATEMs that don't have a headphone jack it doesn't mean you're working silently what it means is that you have to plug your headphones into the monitor we have an hdmi output and we're going to come to that you would have to monitor the audio through that monitor i hate that we use both words for the the same word for two things but you would monitor the audio on the video monitor how's that sound through that if you don't have the extreme with the headphone jack then there's the two microphone inputs you can see those as two little microphone inputs there those allow you to bring in just audio so every single video input has audio with it so every hdmi input can have audio coming in with it however if you want separate audio maybe that's coming from a mixing board maybe you just want to plug in a mic directly into there you can do that now i will tell you just in case we forget to talk about this later if you let's say that you plug in a microphone directly into there and then you've got your camera elsewhere right the audio coming in is coming in in real time the if you're using a an analog lavalier or sorry an analog say shotgun mic that is wired it's xlr into some mixing board and then into here that audio is real time 100 real time if you add an analog wireless microphone it too is real time if you add a digital wireless microphone it is ever so slightly delayed not enough that it would be a problem but it is going to be ever so slightly delayed so you've got essentially real time or just barely barely off real-time audio coming in your video however is not real-time video is never coming in real time over hdmi a lot of any camera that has an hdmi output is not outputting the video in real time there is time to process that video to get it out for the hdmi port now blackmagic cameras fortunately have the lowest latency of any that i've ever seen they are virtually real time they're close enough to real time that you can get away with it but they're not and this is important to understand if you listen to your own dialogue going through a blackmagic camera coming in through here you will hear it ever so slightly out of phase with your own voice because it is ever so slightly delayed so if you're using a blackmagic camera program to worry about it but if using any other hdmi camera that has a longer delay it could be a couple of frames could be four frames could be seven frames just depends on the camera if you bring that video into the ATEM and your audio comes in in real time they will be out of sync and so you have to bring them into sync and you have the ability to do that and we will show that when we get into the audio setup but the easiest way to do it is to simply run your audio through the camera with the video so that way the video and the audio are set in sync by the camera and sent out together that is the easiest way to keep everything in sync but i wanted to point that out because if you are bringing in audio directly onto the microphone inputs you will have to adjust sync you can either do it in the atm or if you're using a big mixing board most mixing boards have that capability in fact the way that i'm doing this production right now so i'm wearing a lavalier a wireless lavalier microphone it's plugged into a mix pre over in my rack which is then got some noise processing happening to it and then it sends an output through another mixer don't ask but it's just the way it's set up through another mixer and eventually into the ATEM where it gets picked up by here i have to add a delay somewhere in there i'm actually doing it in the mix pre i think it's 133 milliseconds i think that's the timing that i've programmed into the mixpre to get the delay so it's in sync and hopefully everything looks like it's in sync to you so that's that is one way of handling it so i'm getting kind of advanced there but that is you know one way to do that okay back to the hardware itself so the was the headphone input headphone output the mic inputs the eight video inputs and then you'll see here two hdmi outs one and two this is another thing that was added to the extreme is a second hdmi output the smaller ones let me actually grab a smaller one here let's go back to this view the smaller one here you can see this has four inputs and one hdmi output and then you can also see there's no headphone jack on there this is by the way the this is the ATEM uh there it is this is the ATEM mini pro iso so the the top of the line of the smaller one so you can see it's a pretty significant size difference in there all right so back to this um i felt like something just changed um so the hdmi output on the little one can be oh actually on both of them you can set the outputs to be whatever you want you can set it to be the multi-view which you're going to see in a moment that's where you see all of your inputs at once you can set it to be the program which is what the audience is seeing or you can set it to be any one of the inputs so if you just want a close-up of camera two you can tell it to output camera two with just one input this is perfectly fine if you are doing a show where you're live streaming from the ATEM so the audience is getting your program out over the internet connection and then you're looking at the multi-view on the monitor if however you're doing more like a local production i'm doing i'm live switching let's say at a house of worship and i've got i'm doing live switching and it's for the breakout room or the overflow whatever and i want to have the multi-view in front of me but then i want to run an hdmi cable out to a projector or something in the other room you didn't have that capability with the smaller ones with only one output with the larger ATEMs with the dual hdmi outputs you can choose to have multi-view on one monitor on one output and program on the other and you can switch it up however you want so that's where those two come in very very handy indeed then we've got two usb ports so again two usb ports whereas on the smaller ATEM you have one usb port so usb port can be used to do two things it can be used to either be a usb output into your computer meaning that your computer thinks that the ATEM is a webcam and this is how you use an ATEM to switch video for a zoom call a skype call something like that which is roughly what we're doing here my setup's a bit different but this is roughly what we're doing here this is a zoom webinar you are seeing the input from an atom again a little bit different than the usb but that is effectively what it would be the other thing that you can do with the usb port is you can use it to record your show we talked about that a little bit earlier so you would plug in something like a little samsung drive this is a little these little solid state guys are perfect for this so you plug this into the usb port and now you've got a recording of the program if you have an iso model you have the isos with all of the switching data and all that the thing is you can't use the usb port for both things simultaneously you can either be sending usb data out to your computer or it can be sending video out video file video data whatever out to the connected drive it can't do both at the same time which is why on this model we now have two usb ports where they go two usb ports so you can have one of them plugged into your computer and one of them plugged into a drive next to that you'll see an ethernet port it says ATEM control and then power the ATEM control under this is really really important this is how you get your your device on the network first of all so this is how you can control it from any computer on the network now you can just go usb into your computer and then run the ATEM software on your computer and control the ATEM but you can only run it on that one computer by adding it to the network i can now access that ATEM from any computer on the local network you can even and i've done this you can even set up a vpn so that someone can vpn into your location launch the software on their end and control the ATEM remotely via vpn connection even though they're looking they're running the software locally on their system super cool way advanced workflow than what we're talking about this uh today or tomorrow but that is something that's totally possible so that is really cool that means that you could have one person in software controlling sound while somebody else is in software controlling let's say graphics so really really powerful that you can do that plus if you are live streaming from the hardware itself then of course that ethernet connection gives you access to the internet so that you can live stream so all of these from the um from the extreme i'm sorry from the ATEM mini pro model on up have the ability to live stream from the hardware itself that requires a hardwire ethernet connection and i point that out it requires a hardwire connection there is no wi-fi built into these and i'm sure plenty of people have said come on guys build wi-fi in excuse me i've never asked why because i think i know the answer to this it's bad wi-fi no bueno you don't want wi-fi in a live streaming situation so why even give you the option because what would happen and i know this from working with tech companies for years if if you give the user the ability to do wi-fi and they have problems with the wi-fi who are they going to call blackmagic and say my streaming doesn't work we're using wi-fi yeah well that's why well why'd you put it in there so there you go so there's no wi-fi option you have to go hardwire and then i can see gary laughing down there you you just you've got to go hardwire on this so that's why it's set up that way okay so there's the inputs now let's talk about the the actual buttons this there's a lot of but let's go to the small one first actually um if i can set this on here without pushing any buttons on the ATEM itself there we go so you have a row of and this one four and on the bigger one eight buttons to switch your camera angle they're nice and big and easy to hit and you can see here they light up red when they're on air and that allows you to very easily uh very quickly switch to which camera is running then you have we'll just do the big one then you have a bunch of other buttons that do all kinds of fun things so these buttons and i realize this isn't a super close-up so you can't see really closely on here but um these are all about audio you can switch which audio is on so i can have let's say audio simultaneously from all three of these inputs you have something called audio follows video where the audio comes on only when you switch to that input so you see i switched to input 3 and the audio followed video comes on then you have if you're using camera control you have control over the cameras themselves and each of these banks of buttons are duplicated for each input so these buttons here are the same as these here same as this here and so on then across the top you've got microphone input controls so levels in and out on and off so if i want audio from mic 1 or mic 2 on or off i can do that i can adjust their levels on here and then your headphones you can mute your headphones you can adjust the volume on your headphones in here these all have to do with the picture-in-picture the dves all this other stuff media players and so on that you can load up there's a ton in here to get into and while it's awesome to have all this control on here i think that for most users as you get into using some of these more advanced settings it's easier to build a macro to do what needs to happen so that with one button it loads up the right graphic loads lower third does all the things switch to the right camera angle does all that with one touch but you have the absolute ability to be here running a show and go right okay we're gonna we're switching we're gonna load up media player two we're gonna do this put this dve set it all up ready to go and then take it live so you can do all of that from the hardware itself here which is pretty great if you think about the older i shouldn't say older the larger ATEMs we go back to this real quick uh here if you look at these these have buttons on the front of them but these are not meant these buttons are not for live switching these are more for controlling the different in and outs on the hardware but are not meant for live switching you have to do the switching in software and once you start clicking things in software you realize pretty quickly that having a tactile thing to touch becomes a real advantage so that's where this is a wonderful thing that's why there are these these huge boards so you can have that big tactile feedback even when you're using these kind of mixers these kind of audio video switchers sorry and uh and having the tactile button is great but as you get more and more advanced you kind of go back to software where you start adding in all the macros and then eventually add things like the stream deck here which i think you see this in my overhead shot uh yeah you can see my stream deck here that i'm where i'm doing all my switching on and i know you can't read the buttons on there but like there's the you know the wide shot the tight shot that's the over and so on and so i can see the buttons here and each one of these is triggering some series of of uh either macros or commands that are doing multiple things at once with one button so fun stuff you can do and then let's see here you have some various picture picture controls here the ability to trigger your first six macros from the hardware which is really really nice this is the only the extreme is the only hardware that has this so you have this ability to just go all right i need macro number four and you hit it and it triggers that macro that is super super handy then you've got controls over your transition so these are our transition types transition timing and so if i wanted to go from you know camera one to camera two uh i'd set it put into preview mode we'll get into that in a bit and i can choose you know set it to wipe and then hit auto and it does the wipe oh i want it to be a two second wipe and when you as a diagonal and you set that and then hit it and it does the transition so you have control over all of that here again this is really about doing a live show where you're kind of deciding on the fly what to do as opposed to i know i'm always switching from camera a to b to c back to a and i've just got those one inputs ready to go so it's you know different approaches to things and then finally this row of buttons here gives you this controls the output it says video out is the output on video output one number one and it allows you to choose what's going out which is most commonly going to be the multi-view but then if you go oh i want to see you know input five whatever you can pull that up really quickly so let's actually start the hardware demo with that i'm gonna start by hooking up a monitor to be multi-view so i've got here it is from the cables i've got this cable here i'm going to plug this into uh let's see here this is going to go into lean over and find this thing there it is input one okay i'm not gonna well i'll just plug that in as i'm plugging that in find it there it is let me go to my side shot and as i plug that in monitor's probably powered itself off let's see there it goes so now i'm seeing the multi-view from here so that is what is being powered there i've actually set up a thing so that i can route this out to you directly so you can see that directly what you're actually looking at there this is kind of one of those cool uses of the dual hdmi outputs is this little guy right here this is a blackmagic converter sdi to hdmi converter vice versa so this is coming out of the second monitor the second hdmi output going into this converted to sdi you see the red sdi cable there and then that is running into my main switcher where i can switch to it like this so that gives me the ability to show you that up close so that's where i'm how i'm using that second one today but if we look back to the side view i also have a big monitor over here so i can see exactly what's going on you see there's not a whole lot going on here yet i don't have anything plugged into it yet i've got a couple of graphics loaded up and we see some status info here but that's it so let's actually since we're here why don't we go back to this view and talk about what we are looking at so across the bottom there's two media players those are graphics that are already loaded then you have where it says iso stop that is the recording status so if i'm recording we'd see that there and on the right we see the streaming status currently not running but that is the status of streaming then just above that and i can't point to things because i don't have mouse you're looking video out but if you look at the one that has all those meters on it nothing's actually bouncing on them because it doesn't have any audio input but that's where we'd see that then you can see cameras one through looks like i kind of messed up my layout but one two three four and it goes back to one two and five well whatever we can fix that um and then a program so you see the actual program out so you can see what the audience is seeing that's what multi-view does for you and of course we can configure that however you like since noted by the fact that i said i messed up setting it up so we'll go in and we'll fix that in a moment so that multi-view is super super important so with that said now let's go ahead and plug in a camera so we're talking like bass bass level setup here i'm going to use this guy right here this is the blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k um i've got a let's go back to my overhead view here so i've got a um panasonic lumix 10 to 25 millimeter lens on here nice fast lens this is great 10 to 25 zoom this is great for stuff like this close up because i've got a super wide angle field of view and it's plugged into power right now you don't have to do that to use it obviously it has battery but i will say anytime you're doing anything live do yourself a favor don't use batteries do not use batteries anywhere that you can avoid it so in this setup right now the only batteries that i'm relying on are on my wireless packs for my microphone and my monitor these are the only batteries that i'm on and taking the batteries concern out of your live stream is such a relief it's just it's so nice to not have to worry about batteries so this camera these cameras come with their own power supply which is super awesome just plug it in and off you go okay so with that said let's get this plugged in grab an hdmi cable here and plug that in go to input one and plug this into the camera so if we look i'll bring up a close-up shot here if we look at i should do it this way if you look at the there it is oh can i get that interview i got this cable in the way if you look at the side on here okay barely you can see that uh can i hand it all the way so it focuses on the camera you can see that hdmi input right right there you know how hard it is to look at one camera reach around and try and grab something which is coming from a different angle like left becomes right and anyway uh you think i'd be used to it by now but no so i plug this in and as soon as i do let's go to the multi-view you can see now the view from that so voila so there we've got it we can also see that we're getting audio from here so you're not hearing the audio from the camera yet you're hearing my microphone still which means it might actually be out of sync but you can see camera one and you can see on the camera one input the one on the middle left side you can see the audio meters on there you can see that those audio meters are bouncing so you know it is getting audio okay so with that said let me just set this thing up so that i can do stuff with it without holding it so i'm just i'm real fancy here balancing on a piece of gaff tape um what is that black spot oh i've enabled a multi-view oops let's turn that off okay um all right so let's see here um yeah let's switch over to this so we are looking at there's something else on there i don't even know what's running give me just a moment here to figure out why i've got some other thing on the screen right now see here look if i go to the extreme you can see that black spot in there trying to figure out which everything else is off um yep i'm going into software to figure out what is running because i cannot figure that out well this is a great opportunity for me to show you the software interface so let me fire that up over here and then i'll switch to this screen and here we go this is the software version of the hardware i can do all the same switching in here between camera one camera two and so on so for example you can see right now this is set to program is camera one if i go to the overhead view you can see it's on camera one there right that's lit up let me go back to the oops back to the software view and then i will switch this in software to camera four and then if i go back to the overhead view you can see that that has changed to camera four so it's the same control i'll hit three on here and now when i go back to the mac we see that camera three is running on there so this is the same control you touch anything here it happens in hardware you touch on hardware and it happens in here there's the key that was up on air that was giving me that black spot over the camera so now i've turned that off okay so let's go back to the multi-view view and i'm going to now switch actually over so you're hearing if i get this right you should if i did this right be hearing audio through the camera right now so it's not going to be anywhere near as good but this is just the audio on the camera itself uh gary do me a favor give me a thumbs up that we're actually doing this right you're hearing me from the camera excellent okay good so you're hearing me through there i have turned off the good microphone so that's all you're hearing now i don't want to do a bunch of the show this way because it's not going to be very good quality but i do want to show you let's get let's see here let me go

hey this happens to be i don't know what i say if i'm at my desk and i go mm-hmm and i'm on the phone siri goes yes like i wasn't talking to you i don't understand anyway so let's let's go into the software again and back here and under audio controls and i'm going to show this to you in the software even though we have control over the hardware just because it's a little bit easier to follow what's going on via the webinar but you can see on here this is camera 1 input this is the input that was right here that's the microphone coming off of there if i let's go back to this if i tap on the camera you can see the peaks on there that is that microphone so if i'm doing a show where i want audio from the camera's microphone you really don't ever want to do that but if you had to then that's all you need right i got my camera hooked up it's got a built-in mic and we're good to go right it's audio clearly you want to do better than that so you would get some other type of audio so either you put on a shotgun mic some kind of a boom mic a lavalier whether it's a wired lav into the camera or wireless however you want to do it but you get that better quality audio into the camera feeding into that input and now we have full control over the audio in here so we're going to come back into audio in a little bit and talk more about what you can do in here but here is that same oops same on and off so i can just turn that audio on and off and we see that it's red up here when it's on air red by the way is on air i realize it's kind of a it's tradition right red means on air and i guess it's that way to say kind of danger don't be careful don't mess with it because the whole world can see what you're doing kind of a thing i always think of red as you know stop right like red's bad green is good whereas here red is on air so that's good because it's on air but it's also bad because don't mess with it i i don't know the whole history of the logic behind the colors but red is on air so whenever you see red in a switcher it is on air just know that so going back to the software we can see that this this audio input is on air now you're not hearing it because of the way i've routed things after this but that is audio on air and then i have a lot of other audio controls in here including that afv that audio follows video so you'll see here i had enabled it uh before can i assume oh i can i had enabled afv audio follows video on the hardware and if we look at the top of this you see it's got the little yellow on there that tells me that it's it's armed it's ready for on air and i'm gonna hit camera three on the switcher and then now that camera three is on oh look it did a wipe over to camera three oh no you didn't see that uh now camera three is on and it is on air and i go back to camera one and then after the transition it goes to standby again so that is afv or audio follows video at work so you have all that kind of control from the software again we're going to get more into the software in a moment let me check my notes real quick and make sure i didn't forget anything here that i want to talk about um buttons got my notes are good um okay let me talk just a little bit more about the software and then we'll get more into switching stuff so let's go back to this so you have your audio control in here if i go back to the main switcher your input control your your upstream and downstream keys are all controlled from here if you want to do transitions by hand you can grab this knob and slide back and forth normally if you're doing a transition you would set up like it was set to a wipe it's set to two second rate and so then when i hit uh hit auto it does that transition it takes two seconds for that to happen normally you set these things up and do it that way but you can take this up and you can actually go you know back and forth on a transition if you wanted to you know play dj with your video switching downstream keys are all the different overlays you have upstream keys and downstream keys those these are what allow you to bring in different layers into the video we'll talk more about this later on and then all the other control in here color generators super source because i am working with the bigger ATEM let's go ahead and zoom into that the four upstream keys that you have on the ATEM extreme transition control so if you want to get deeper into your transition control you can you can do that from here and then downstream keys more keys and a fade to black command which you have back up to the top here we got our media players i don't have anything connected right now but you do have the ability to control hyperdex from here and then output this is a really important aspect of all of this so if i'm live streaming that is all set up here i want to live stream to youtube and i'll use the primary server and then i just copy and paste the key to my live show in here and choose the streaming quality and off you go so this all of this is run through here there's even restream dot oh built in all this is controlled from here recording if you're recording your stream this is all controlled from here as well which uh what is it called that you're recording to the files you're recording what are you going to name them you can choose to see the display status of your recording on your monitor you can trigger recording in all cameras if you are using the blackmagic cameras and you can choose to disable the iso recording if you don't want it to record all those separate streams you can turn that off if you wanted to so that's all set up in here you can you can't capture video without an external capture card it's just the software that's set up you can capture a still however so if i wanted to capture a still of one of the whatever's live on air i can do that and then time code so then let's see here media pool this is where we see all the media that has been added to the switcher so you can see a couple graphics that i've added and you can have up to 20 graphics stored in here at once and then over here you've got whichever two are primed and ready to go on air media player one and media player two and so you can just drag and drop these in or you can control this with macros as well and you can choose to load up a particular graphic in there and have it ready to go audio we went through briefly and then camera control this only really is relevant if you are using a camera with control a blackmagic camera so let's talk about that next double check that's where i really want to go next um so we kind of went through look at my notes we kind of went through the first two things i suppose i meant to go to this slide at some point um to say setting in switch-ups show setup and switching basics we kind of have covered all of this already but uh but that's okay let me make sure to miss anything yeah i think i pretty much covered all that so yeah so let's go next up is um the cameras yeah let's talk about the cameras themselves and the camera control that we have how are we on time my watch doesn't turn on anymore when i raise my wrist half the time oh we're doing good okay so let's talk about the camera control so this is something that is unique to having the pocket cinema cameras you have um you can use any camera with an hdmi output in this setup right anything with hdmi can feed into the atm and off you go but if you're using the blackmagic cameras you have control over focus over the exposure over the color the uh you can even see which one is on air through something called a tally light so here let me show you that to start get this let's go you can see the red on there right so that means that that camera is on air i'll switch to input

oh still got the audio on there we go um switched input two it's off air switch back to input one and it comes back on air so we can choose we can see from here which camera is on or off air which is really really awesome so imagine a live scenario live streaming setup make sure the cables are not blocking anything a live setup where you've got say an interview and you've got multiple people on camera and you've got of course multiple cameras the talent can always see which camera is on air because of that red light the tally light so that's something you get automatically on these cameras you don't have to add an external tally light you don't have to add an external tally light system everything is controlled over the hdmi port and the camera knows when it's on air or off air and you see it ready to go okay so that's the first thing you get out of it but let's go into the actual camera control here so let's see i can i'm gonna have to kind of switch back and forth to show you these things but here's here's the type of control that we have let me zoom into this so i can set the lift gamma and gain which is basically your shadow mid-tones and highlights i can change the exposure on those and i can even change the color on them so i can dial in a very specific color look let me reset that if i scroll down here i can change the aperture of the lens and i'm seeing and i will show this to you on like a live video in just a moment but um i can change the aperture of the lens here i can change focus i can drag this to change focus if i'm in manual focus and if i had a powered zoom lens i could even control the zoom of that lens on here this is a really cool function to be able to do it's definitely getting into higher end gear i mean you do have some inexpensive lenses uh i thought i had one oh there it is so like this is a overhead there we go this is a lens from olympus it has a power zoom capability on it so i can do it by hand see there's well i guess it doesn't telescope but anyway i'm zooming by hand and if i pull it up into this position you can't really tell there but it's in like a rocking motion right now that means it's a power zoom and when i connect this to the camera i can actually control the zoom of the lens through there now this is a cheap version of it this is a very slow lens what is this thing this is a olympus 12 to 50 millimeter f 3.5 to 6.3 so it's a really slow lens meaning very poor low light gathering capability not the greatest for studio use but you know you can use it right you can spend a lot more money and get into some really big fancy lenses that have motor control on them in fact i did a video on this not that recently i have this whole series of tips called the ATEM mini tips that are on my youtube channel and there's one about power zoom control i happen to have in the studio for another project a big canon i don't remember the model or anything but this huge canon power zoom lens and it was awesome to be able to to run that through here i was using the blackmagic pocket cinema camera 6k which has the canon ef mount on it and i was able to control that power zoom from the software really really cool to be able to do that so that's something to you know think about for really big productions you have that capability but all that control can happen in the software okay so back to the software again this is how you control it but let me show you what it actually looks like so let's go back to this view and so we've got that view on there and i'm going to in fact here's what i'll do as well i'm going to go up to my outputs and set output 2 to camera 1. there we go so now you're seeing that camera bigger and now i'm going to go in and change the color just like you saw me doing in the software i'm doing the same thing here i'm changing the color on the lift here i'll change the exposure make it darker make it brighter i'm opening and closing the aperture in there i can trigger auto focus in here i can do all of this stuff from the camera software control let me reset all of that reset all back to normal there we go and i'll set the output back to here this is what i'm doing uh back to this i'm changing so this is the output from the ATEM output number two which is the one that's going into my bigger switching system and if i switch this over to multi-view as soon as i do that let's see here i'm gonna switch back so you can see it i click that and i click that and there it is so now we've got the multi-view set up in there so that level of software control is fantastic and because it's done through the software this means you can create macros to do all of this stuff you can create macros to switch color views to change exposure let's say that you have some type of a setup where you know that it's going to get brighter it's going to get darker maybe maybe a play that's a good example you're doing some kind of live streaming of theater production and there's times where they've got all the lights on kind of normal light but then there's some really dark moody scenes when it gets really really dark well that's fine for the audience it all looks dark and moody but then live you're like i can't see what like through the can't see what's happening i want to change the exposure well so in setup you go through you have your lighting guide bring up your different lighting cues and then you go in and you build macros okay this is you know daytime scene this is my night scene and you set up exposure shifts for the cameras so that you can toggle all of those and that's that's really really powerful stuff to be able to do that so one of many reasons that the blackmagic cameras are optimal for this i really do really that having that level of control on it is really really special and cool okay um and then recording stuff we're going to get into that tomorrow all right i do believe that's everything i wanted to cover there let's go let's talk about audio a little bit more because audio is a really cool part of this and this is something that was added to the ATEM oh when did it add was it the extreme maybe it's later i don't remember maybe it got retroactively added anyway on all of the higher end models for sure maybe it's even on the lower end model now you have a very impressive amount of audio control so let's take a look what that looks like let's go over here to this go back to the audio tab and at first glance you have let's go put bring camera one back on air um i'm just gonna get out of the auto transition mode here we go and we have over here audio there it is the ability to change the levels so we've got just simple little gain fader so if you are um you know you're doing a show and suddenly you set all your audio levels great but then suddenly the actor is talking a little bit quieter or they're talking about louder and you want to be able to adjust that you have a quick knob that you can quickly grab yeah bring that down bring it up a little bit so that's what that slider is for but you should ideally set up your levels before that on the main gain so that would be up here at the top so you see the gain is set to zero right now but as i up and drag that back and forth i can change the gain level so audio you know i'm gonna get into a huge thing on audio but audio is one of those things where there's so many stages of where it can go wrong in many ways i feel like audio is a lot harder than video if we think about my wireless setup right now and how many hops it's going through before it gets to you so i'm wearing a lavalier wearing wireless lav this one this particular one i'm using the sennheiser avx this one does not have gain control on the receiver pack which takes one step out of it but a lot of packs do and so i would sit here with my transmitter pack i said receiver sorry with my transmitter pack i would be adjusting the levels on there having my talent talk and adjust the levels until they're right so we've got you know not you want it as loud as it can possibly be without peaking okay so we get that right and then i go to my receiver and the receiver probably has a gain control for its output so it's output gain if you will but it's receiving a signal and now what is it sending out to the camera or whatever you're connecting it to so then you got to set that gain correctly and then that's plugging into a camera a mixer something else in my case it's plugging into a mixed pre so on the mix pre i have gain control so i've got to set that just right but i have to start here right i have to start with me go all the way through the chain and then i set the receiver and then i set the the item that is getting the the audio from the receiver so in my case the mix pre and then in my case i'm routing that into another audio mixer because just because it's my studio uh it's going into another audio mixer where i have another opportunity to change the game i don't on this case but i can from there it's just at zero and then that gets fed into the ATEM and then on the ATEM right here i have a gain level control here so i got to get this just right and then there's the fader for that last minute oh crap they're talking too quiet or too loud adjustment on there so there's a lot of levels a lot of pieces in there and i make this point just because it is complex audio can get very messy and if you're having audio trouble your levels are too high too low by the time you can hear them it's distorting uh it's distorting even when it's down low you know some problem like that start at the source start at the beginning and you're working work your way through the chain you can't start at the end and work back start at the source me my source and work my way through the chain uh if you have let's say that i was i had somewhere along the chain i had it turned too far down then by the time i got here to the atm i crank it up to make up the difference well now i've got this noise floor all this this garbage in the background that i'm hearing that i shouldn't be hearing on there so when you have problems like that start at the source and work your way through the chain video is easier it really is uh okay so that's the basic stuff but then you get these little guys right here equalizer and dynamic so i open up the eq so here i'm going to actually enable this let's see here if i

yep nope yep there okay so now you're hearing me through this yes and not this not hearing um ooh do we not we very low okay no it's not you let me take the levels up and okay so i'm watching the levels on here it is low i'm going to take the levels up all the way because i'm using and i'm going to get a little bit closer because i'm using the microphone now on this camera right where you're listening to me through here i probably should have set up a separate wireless mic for this to make it work better but let me now go into the software and let's see if i got this right

i guess i didn't set it up so that i can do that okay i'm going to go back and forth here i'm just going to subtract the audio here so we don't really mess things up and forth between them

there we go there we go no echo now so um i'm going to go back and forth between the two just because i can't it's too hard to do both at the same time to show it to you but let me just show you the controls that you have so back to this view here we've got dynamics and equalizer start with the equalizer and from here i can you know boost the bass in my voice so i can do things like this i can change the treble you know find the the uh whatever the the frequency that is bothersome or needs enhancing i have this control in here i view a full multi-band eq in here so you can really change the sound dynamics in there then you've got under dynamics you have these the expander and the gate which will allow you to knock out a lot of the background noise so if you've got a large amount of background sounds you can actually reduce that or eliminate it using the expander or the gate effectively what this does is it was it's listening to for levels over above a certain threshold and it will cut off everything below that now you do have to be cautious with it because you can have something where it's a really loud background environment and if you gate it so that it goes totally silent when the person is not talking when they start talking suddenly you hear all this background noise and then when they stop it's pure silent and that just sounds weird like you notice the background noise more when it suddenly comes in as opposed to finding a threshold where the background noise is there but it's just lower and sound it's not totally prominent it's lower and your brain gets used to that and your brain cancels that out and then you just hear the dialogue you don't think about the background noise but if the background noise is just full on on and off you're going to hear it and it's going to be very distracting so setting all this up is a really important part of of doing good audio and obviously the best solution is to have super clean audio environment but clearly that's not real that's not normal right most environments there is some kind of background noise the amount of background noise is happening in my studio right now is ridiculous these because i have this huge server rack over here but that's why i'm running my audio through the mix pre with this thing called noise assist on it that does a magical job of removing background audio and and that's being done in hardware and you can do similar things on here now i the reason that i'm not doing this in the ATEM itself for this show is because the atm that i have the 2me doesn't have any of this audio control this is all much newer than the newer hardware my main item the big 2me doesn't have any of this so i have to do it externally so once again something that makes these smaller atoms an insane value the amount of technology that's packed into here you no longer have to have an external five hundred dollar thousand dollar two thousand dollar audio board that does the equalizing does the noise gating and expanding and so on and then there's also compression in here so you can enable the compressor the compressor is going to allow you to keep your levels more constant so any lower levels that'll raise up any higher ones it'll bring down so tries to keep everything within a specific range um lots lots of great stuff you can do it and then there's a limiter finally for knocking out those really high peaks so there's all these different pieces and there can be used and this is all on every single input every input has its own settings so let me turn on something on here and then you'll see um here we go let's change let's say i change something in here and i'm trying to make the ui change a little bit i guess it doesn't really matter you see up here these indicators of how it's set so each one of these has its own little representation of what is being said on there and i'll pull that up pull this down and you see that represented up here so you know at a glance what each one is getting um i mentioned the headphones earlier so if we look over here oh sorry before i go into that one more thing each one of these has its own level controls right all these individual things and then you have your master which is a master output that you can raise or lower this is going to raise or lower everything the sliders themselves don't change but this is taking all of your audio mixed and making that louder or quieter then you also have a master dynamics and eq on that as well typically you're going to want to do everything individually right but if for whatever reason suddenly the whole thing just needs to get a little quieter or louder you have you have the ability to adjust that here that's what that is so now let's go down to this headphone control i mentioned the headphones and the funny thing is this ui this headphones ui has been in the software and forever but almost no ATEMs have a headphone jack on them but now the atm extreme does and so now we've got the ability to monitor from the hardware self like i explained earlier and going back into the software i can adjust the levels on here i can also do that in hardware so like if i turn this up all the way and then on the hardware itself so these are my i know you can't really see the buttons that clearly but these are my headphone controls i have up and down a mute and a reset button so let's go back into the software and i'm going to push the hardware buttons to make this quieter or make it louder i'm going to hit the mute button and you see it mute on there and i hit the reset and it puts it back to its default position so you have that same control in software as you do in hardware now i also mentioned that through the headphones the my main idea is that you are hearing the program you're hearing what is going out to the live audience but if you ever want to monitor a single channel let's say you're trying to figure out where some weird noise is coming from or you want to make sure that the levels are good for the guy in camera 3 before you bring them to air anything like that you can solo meaning just hear one channel you can solo any input so that's happens over here scroll down you can see this little headphone button under each one of these you click that and it is now in solo mode and so you're now soloing and just listening to that one and you can switch between all the different ones on here or you just turn it off and now you're listening to everything again so you have that total control in there all right that's all of that i think we're good there um gary give me a thumbs up if we have any questions we want to jump into before i get into some other stuff we do awesome all right i'm going to bring you on actually i'm going to take a very nice almost i'm good just who needs breaks let's just go into it um where's gary here's gary all righty you should be on air you should be audible to the audience how you doing buddy i'm doing doing fine i'm just uh

i gotta figure out my monitoring

did i throw you do you want do you want me you want to give me a moment well i'm hearing myself twice but i'll try to get past that uh

so because we didn't yesterday when i did this and i i'm doing the same thing oh it's because we weren't actually live yesterday when we did the webinar that's probably ah okay i'll try to ignore that um so the first thing i want to ask about is there are many users that are complaining about the um the image quality of this transmission and it looks really good to me in hd and i don't know if i'm getting a special feed or not i don't think i am um a lot of people are saying that it's soft and there's compression artifacts do you have any um insight on that i don't and i'm looking at i've got a i've got a little facebook portal over here that's running it and it looks pretty good here um yeah i don't know what to say i want to deny that this is probably happening i i know that um i can read the button labels on your switcher so i don't know why it's uh doing that let me i'm going to make sure i can hear you go ahead and read the the first real the first question i'm going to go take a look at the zoom settings and make sure that it is actually sending hd so but i can still hear you okay um some of the questions i'm going to save for tomorrow when you actually talk about the uh specific product area that you're going to be that the question's about okay the

let me see one question is do you have a graphic of your signal and workflow that you could provide either maybe later or something like that so i don't have one set up and it's funny because when it comes to my studio setup people ask that a lot the reason that i don't have it set up is because i change it all the time it is constantly changing i rerouted a ton of stuff just to do today's show right i've got things set up here that aren't normally set up because i'm bringing gary in and demoing the switcher which is very meta right you're showing the hardware that you're simultaneously using so i have a lot of kind of complex stuff set up in here that's not normally set up but my system is pretty ridiculous to begin with and it changes constantly so i really don't i'm sorry to say um it's i can give you at its core i have the atm 2me that's the big switcher that's in a rack and everything routes through that i've got cameras in other rooms that are routing through it this switcher is routing into it my computer here is routing into it everything is routing into that that is at the core and then i'm sending that out to a an hdmi to usb converter to bring it into zoom which is actually being handled in the other room so that's kind of the very basic part of it but beyond that i'm sorry i just i don't because it's just too complex and it changes all the time sorry sure so um what are the specific streaming settings used for this webinar are you directly from the ATEM or to a software app okay so for this webinar we're using zoom and zoom has zoom is quite limited it will only allow us to push out a 720 by 1280 signal and um and even that it was hard to get zoomed to do it's the only way to get full hd out of zoom is to be like you know google basically i don't know who gets the full 1080p but nobody does and so we're limited to that resolution now what i'm actually sending to zoom so i mentioned that from my atm 2m everything is being switched on there one of the sdi outputs the program outputs like this has two hdmi program mouse the big one has multiple outputs i'm taking one of those sdi outputs and running it into my office in my office i have a sdi to usb converter it's a company called innogeni it's a little sdi to usb that is plugged into my computer and so my computer in the office sees the innogeni as just a webcam and so i go into zoom and i say look at the innogeni just like you would go into zoom and say look at the ATEM because of my routing it's looking at the energeni instead but that is what is pulling into zoom so i'm feeding zoom a 1080p signal but zoom is only broadcasting 720p so uh that's and then all the audio is obviously coming over that sdi as well so that's that's effectively how that's working

okay uh which pocket camera do you have there that was asked and i forgot when you said it this is the pocket cinema camera 4k i believe that's the full model on this one um yeah blackmagic pocket cinema camera so that's the you know pcc or bm pcc is kind of how it's abbreviated uh this is the 4k model and then over here i've got the 6k and i will be using both of these tomorrow when i do the iso demo the 6k so bmpcc blackmagic pocket cinema camera 6k not the pro the pro i don't have here so that's the 4k and the 6k the 6k has the ef mount so there's a canon lens on here and the uh the 4k has a micro thirds mount so i've got that panasonic 10 to 25 millimeter lens on there so those those are the cameras that i've got in here but everything you've seen so far has been through the 4k

so um this was answered i think but i think it is important to reiterate um is it possible to use the ATEM as webcam via ethernet and record at the same time via usb

okay so to use it as a webcam over ethernet so there's two those are two separate things so to use the camera as a use the ATEM as a webcam meaning that zoom skype facetime you know pick your your meeting app sees the ATEM as a webcam that requires usb not ethernet the ethernet connection is for streaming to a service like youtube or facebook live so those are two very separate types of services and i think that's an important distinction that that some people get confused you've got your streaming platform which is like youtube facebook and so on these are not meetings you don't join my stream as a meeting and chat to me and so on it's a one to many i am streaming my video single out to youtube out to facebook out to restream dot io whatever that is done over ethernet that is a data stream that goes directly from the ATEM out to the ether as a a chat service like skype like uh facetime like zoom these are two-way video conferencing apps like we'll call it that at its core and that is done over the usb signal so two completely different types of apps and services so you can you can use you can stream to facebook or youtube and record to usb simultaneously you cannot without having two usb ports you cannot record while also going into zoom or go to webinar or any of those as a usb connection to do that you need two usb connections which is what the extreme has so hopefully that answers that question

i have um just some observations because i'm still reading the chat and everything and i i think i may understand part of the um the questions here and the quality of the video if you were watching uh some of blackmagic's um feeds like the ones that grant does and some of the others they're using youtube and not zoom and i'm wondering if the differences that the people are seeing are the fact that we're using zoom and that um some of the other things are using um uh things like youtube yeah that's probably has a lot to do with it and just fyi i am recording this in full hd which will get re-uploaded to my youtube channel uh should be next week so you will be able to go back and re-watch that just like the previous one is up there as well and that's in full hd so yeah sorry there's just nothing we can do about that believe me before we did the first one a few months ago we were fighting tooth nail just to get straight hd because without it uh you know it'd be unwatchable you know the video of me is fine like this but as soon as i go to the screen or something if it's too low resolution it's just not good so sorry about that i will when i'm in software i'll continue to zoom in because i know that makes a big difference but yeah that is unfortunately just a zoom limitation if anybody out there watching works for zoom call me we got to get this thing upgraded to full hd

so the ethernet cable on the ATEM mini when you're streaming where do you recommend that you connect the question is is it directly connected to the modem i know some people connect to computers you have observations on that sure that's a great question okay so the the ethernet out of this means that it can plug into your network which means however you have everything else on your network plugged in let's talk about the most simple setup you can actually go ethernet from here directly into your computer but then you're not going to get internet on here it'll give you a connection to it and you can do the same thing you could do over usb but you're not going to get internet i suppose if you wanted to get tricky about it you could pull a wi-fi signal into your computer and then route that wi-fi signal through the ethernet into it to kind of cheat around the no wi-fi support but i wouldn't recommend doing that that's definitely not the way to go you normally you would plug that ethernet into your network switch or network hub so if you've got again kind of starting at the most basic level you've got you know comcast or spectrum or whatever and you've got a usb modem in your house that usb modem might only have one ethernet out port but it probably has a couple um or if you've got a wireless setup in your house which you know most people would have your wireless setup has an ethernet in so it's going from the modem into that ethernet in and then that wireless setup might have additional ethernet outputs i'm just going to have at least one and some of them will have multiples anybody who's going into a bigger network and needs more plugs that's where you add something called a switch a network switch and these can be as simple as like a netgear four port switch or like 20 bucks or 30 bucks on amazon super super cheap it's just giving you multiple inputs then you get up into 20 and 40 poor managed switches that can get into the thousands of dollars but at the end of the day they're all doing the same thing they're giving multiple connections to your local network and so these things have something called dhcp built into a dhcp client and so what happens is you just plug this into your network and the network goes your router that would be your the wi-fi router most likely goes oh there's a new device on the network uh i'm going to give it an ip address i'll give it an address so that it's unique on that network you can possibly go into your router software and do a fixed ip and assign it an ip address like in my network i have so much stuff in here that everything has a assigned ip address where i always know what's what but all you really do you just plug it into your hub or plug it into your switch and it's going to automatically just get a right address and get online it's designed to be really easy you don't have to go into the software going back to the let's call it the old days when i first got my atm 2me it took me forever to figure out how because i never worked with it before how to get it on the network because i had to go in and manually assign an ip address to it which meant i had to go into my router and take the mac address from the hardware and go to my router and say this mac address gets this ip address and assign it so that was kind of a pain in the beginning to set up now with dhcp i just literally plug it in and it's online so for most people if you have i would say most home environments are going to have a modem coming in from their isp that modem is outputting into a wi-fi hub or it might be an all-in-one modem and wi-fi hub there's gonna be a spare ethernet port on there so you plug into that if there if you've already used it for something else then you need to add a switch a little four port little a port switch and off you go and ethernet cables you can run really long so you can have them you know all over your house all over your office and so on hopefully that answers that question it's one of those things that's very specific so it has is very specific to your setup but that's kind of at its core how it works hopefully that helps i want to offer a couple of things about the connectivity of the ATEM uh because it was asking a couple of questions but basically some people do report problems trying to stream from the ATEM they can't connect um the the end result is the on-air light flashes and they see the cache build up and that's an indication not connected um the couple of things to check uh the ATEM uses the google dns of eight eight eight eight uh we have no way of changing that at the moment so it's possible that maybe your network is not able to see that dns so what i recommend is with a computer command line type ping space 8.8.8.8 and see if you get a response if you don't get a response then the ATEM mini won't work either if you do get a response then it would sound like the ATEM Mini should see the dns and the other thing that happens is sometimes when you turn on the mini or initially connect it to a router it may not actually acquire an ip address so if you take the ATEM setup utility usb connect to the ATEM and verify that the ATEM has acquired an ip address it has a number other than 0.0.0.0 because it certainly won't work under that condition those are the two things that i see happen the most that's worth checking out you don't have connectivity i'm glad you mentioned that i didn't show the ATEM setup software so i've loaded up on my screen when we're done with the q a i'll jump into that and i'll give a little tour of that as well

okay a good one on the pocket camera can you set the camera id in the camera menu

um i think you can i know you had to do that with okay so i can um i can answer that if you want yeah go ahead so basically the pocket camera is selfied through the hdmi so there is no identification for the pocket cameras because they are connected to the hdmi which is connected directly uh and i'll qualify that connected directly to the ATEM switcher to the specific port that it's obviously plugged into one two three four to eight in the event that you're actually using the bi-directional micro converter 3g to connect either the pocket camera or something else then it might be necessary to set the camera id in the micro converter so the micro converter has its own id by default as one and from the factory quite often under many scenarios you plug it in and it just works because of the way the way things work it will know but if that micro converter is connected to one of the sdi atms it's going to need a camera id because the pocket camera itself does not know that so i hope that helps with that answer that's cool thanks i didn't i wasn't sure how that worked i remember grabbing my old um this is the old version the sdi version of the studio camera so this is the blackmagic studio camera and there's a newer version this now which is super cool but this has a big screen on it whatever but this it has dual sdi uh ports on it so it's an sdi n and an sdi out and to gain the level of camera control that you have today over hdmi you had to run dual sdi cables to your ATEM switcher and then assign the camera id in here to which port it was on so there's a lot of setup involved but like you said now with hdmi it all happens basically automatically which is really cool

so another question is there a way to make the tally light i guess referring to the pocket camera more visible anything that you've come across or any ideas that you might have no i mean it's pretty bright the only way it would be blocked if you had a really big lens on it there's i know there's third-party tally light systems that you can buy and integrate in but i mean as far as the light itself on it it's just it's just on or off i'm not sure what else to do about that sorry and then one question about the stills in the ATEM Mini i'll probably answer it uh in my question here but the question is the original mini version does not store the stills but the rest of the midi models do so some people had the original one the ability to store stills requires specific hardware in the mini to do that and added after the first model and then the the firmware was updated to include that but the original mini um just doesn't have the hardware to support that yeah let me i'll just show that real quickly here if we go back to the computer if i go up to the file menu there is this thing called save startup state and that is going to basically say everything everything about the ATEM including the media here gets saved so that when you power the power the hardware off and then back on again it is restored back to that state like gary said the original the very first one didn't have the hardware to do that but i believe it's everyone after that so the ATEM mini pro and up has that capability but you do need to do that save startup state to make sure you lock it in

and what about the save the startup state that may not always be obvious when you push the button to save the startup state please wait at least 20 seconds maybe 30 seconds for everything to be written to the non-volatile memory because it's not an instant process and it's not uh actually there and oh it goes through the drill of of actually saving all of the the things it has to save so uh don't push save the startup state and unplug the mini you you'll find that it wasn't uh actually saved and there's no progress bar that indicates what's happening there's a progress indicator when you save out the xml file that you'll see a progress on but when you hit save startup state there's no progress so yeah just have a little patience and then off you go oh um for one more question and then we can go on um is the compressor audio in the uh ATEM the same as the one in resolve if you know the answer um otherwise i might be able to help yeah i actually don't know go ahead i uh obviously we don't know if the um the bits and bytes are identically the same but the the fair light processing in the ATEMs which started with the television studio pro 4k and and every ATEM after that um is pretty much the same algorithm as uh used and resolved you'll find the knobs you know look the same the gui looks pretty much the same and everything so we can safely say the algorithm is is pretty close if not exactly the same but you know whether or not there's uh bits and bytes that are different it would be hard for us to actually but it should be very close okay very good um excellent thank you are there any other questions or was that the last one for now

there will be some more a little bit later but uh we'll uh let you go on okay awesome thank you very much gary thank you everybody for the questions and once again if you have questions as we go drop them into the q a window in the zoom webinar and gary as you saw we'll aggregate and pull those questions together and if it's a question that's best answered tomorrow because i'm going to be working with that tomorrow then he'll save that for tomorrow as well all right so next up i want to talk a little bit about the picture-in-picture capabilities i don't and supersource capabilities we're not going to go crazy into this but i'm going to show you some of those things now i'm actually going to bring in another input right now i've only got this one camera hooked up so i'm going to take an ipad and let me show you how this is going to get connected the wire is in the right place so this is so well i guess i should start with the ipad has usb c output that's the only connection the ipad has is usb and obviously the ATEM's got hdmi input so we need to go from usb to hdmi so that's what this little guy here is this is the apple you see it's usb on one end and then the other one has has hdmi it has another usb another usb input for getting power in and then it's got a standard usb input which can be super handy you can you know use that to hook up an external drive or any other number of things but this hdmi adapter is the key this is the one from apple there's one from a company called belkin that works very well as well and it is uh only the the hdmi output it doesn't have the usb ports on it so you can't charge and so on if you're just using the ipad by itself when you only have the one port then you really do want to make sure you have that ability to charge i hear i've got it set up where it's on the smart keyboard or whatever this thing is called this has its own power input so i once as long as this is on here it is getting power and i don't have to um i don't have to worry about the the battery draining on there if i'm using just a straight hdmi only adapter anyway so with that said let me plug this in here and plug this into the ipad and then this input is going to go into input two so let's see here i will let me bring up the multi-view and you'll see it's so warning when you plug this in when you first plug it in what will often happens is the picture comes up and then it goes away for a moment and it i guess the ipad is doing some kind of thinking and i don't know what it's doing but it takes a moment and then it comes back that's typically what you see we'll see if that happens this time so i'm going to bring up the multi-view so you see it i'm going to plug this into input 2 and you can hear there now it's in and let's see what happens there it's up and we'll see if it goes away and then comes back again now you'll see up in the let's not come it's not going away cool you can see up in the top right corner there's a there well now it's gone there was a little indicator telling us that we had that on uh that was connected but obviously we see it connected there now a very important part let's bring this up big on here a very important part of this is that you're not filling the screen notice that there's not only pillar boxes the black bars on the sides but there's also a little bit of black on the top and bottom that is just how the ipad outputs the video to the switcher it is scaling out to 1920 by 1080 that's what this needs but that's just how it fits in it's obviously not going to go to the sides because this is not a 16 by 9 ratio screen it's a 4 3 aspect ratio screen but unfortunately you get those top bars on the top and bottom as well so that's unfortunate but let me pull up a picture here um let me find something that's just a photo that's uh not awful or personal there we go food i don't know about you guys but i'm already getting hungry for lunch okay so i am going to do back to this view let me pull up the multi-view again there we go so you can see right now we're looking at the interface right i'm going to tap a picture and notice it switches over now it's full screen now we see it all the way to the top and if i pinch into the photo it will fill the screen so that is what happens when you go full screen output basically you hit play on a still photo or video coming off the ipad which tells you that the ipad is actually a really good video player for your show so if you're doing an event where you've got video that you want to play up like you know interstitial a commercial a pre-roll whatever the ipad is a great way to do that because you can scroll through the video in the regular uh in this view you can scroll through the video you know in this view pull the video that you want and then as soon as you tap on it to bring it full screen it actually fills the screen on there so you can go full screen and you'd have to like go full screen and hit stop really quick so it's kind of cute up and ready to go but then you switch to that on your ATEM and you hit play on the ipad and it plays through so that is a really really great way to get video into here pre pre uh pre-done video you can do this with a computer of course as well so i can have a computer hooked up that is mirroring and and then i just go full screen on the video and that plays through very similar type of experience or you could set up a computer with a dual screen setup so you're looking at your monitor here but then the ATEM itself is effectively a second screen to the computer but then you have to drag that video over to that second screen and make it go full screen so um it just depends on your setup but i'm just telling you that if you are going to incorporate video into your presentation an ipad is a really really clean way to do that it works really really well okay so with that said um uh oh so the cropping on there that you can crop that out if you wanted to and scale it up a little bit so if you wanted to get rid of those bars on there but anyway so right now go back to the home screen on here so let's go back to this view there we go and i guess i should reposition this camera i set it off to the side so that it kind of sort of sees me oh i suppose i should bring that back up as well there we go and let me focus that i guess i'll hit the focus button is that going to work all right hold down hold it down for a few seconds there we go and then it runs in auto focus perfect there we go now we're in focus okay so um i want to do a little bit of picture-in-picture kind of work so i'm going to switch over to the software oh look the ipad just went out anyway i'm going to switch over to the software screen and show you what we can do in here for picture-in-picture so let's go back to the switcher and actually let's start with the most basic which is going to be on the hardware itself so on the hardware we have and again i know you can't really see these buttons super clearly but this right here says picture in picture and there's an off and on and then positions for them so i'm going to turn that on and let's go poo nothing's kind of reset nothing really looks right in here right now but that's okay i'm going to set that on and go back to the multi-view and so you can see now the picture in picture up there in the little screen and as i hit these preset buttons it puts it into different places in different preset positions um give me a second here folks i've got i've got a ups delivery i'll be right back we're good thanks thanks buddy

what's up working studio what are you gonna do um all right go back to that so you can see the position of that moving around and there's even a kind of a two-up uh picture-in-picture which is basically a supersource kind of setup so you have these simple setups and these four corners let's see one two three four like that those you can do on any of the atoms and obviously you know we'll have a different picture in there so let's go ahead and set that up i'm going to go into the software and let me get this set up here and then i'll pull this back over where are we upstream key am i looking at the right one there we go here upstream key there it is switch back to this so you can see that key is on here there's the on air if i hit the off button on the hardware it turns off there so that's not me on the mouse that is the hardware turn that on or off and then this is key one this is upstream key one so i look over here at upstream key one and it tells me what input it's using right now it's set to camera one so that's why you're seeing this strange uh you know picture-in-picture of me inside of my own video so that's obviously not what we want so let's go back over to the software and i would change that i would say let's show camera two on the on the picture-in-picture so now if i go back to the multi-view we should see my ipad there in the corner so that might make sense or probably makes more sense to go the other direction so i would go ahead and bring up the ipad as the full thing let's turn on the multi-view and then i'm going to go back into the software and switch that multi-view uh sorry not multiple you switch the picture-in-picture to input one the ipad went black that's why i'm that's i may not remember what the problem with this ipad was it keeps doing that there we go um so now i've got a picture in picture where i've got me in the corner here again i can position it in any corner or it's actually a little side one preset that's kind of nice and i've got my my slides my whatever i'm doing on the background there so that's a way to handle that picture in picture so there's that's kind of the built-in preset but you do have an immense amount of control in software now this is a really important part of how all of this works the buttons that are on here whether you're talking about the extreme or the buttons on the the ATEM many of the smaller ones um these presets here so let me let me do a close-up shot on this see if i can get this into frame there we go these preset buttons those four little corners there those will put the video into that position no matter where you have it set it is literally a hardwired put it here and the important thing to know is that if you go in and you meticulously reposition the wherever you want it you can turn it on and off and that's fine but if you hit one of those presets it is going to push that back and there's no one do you have to go in and manually reposition everything again so this is where macros become really really handy you want to be able to record any unique layout as a macro so that you can call it back up before we get into macros though i just i will show you how we would go about repositioning that so let's go back to let's see here um i'm gonna go back to this view and you'll see under here i've got a so there's my uh my upstream key one again so just to recap there's upstream keys upstream q1 let's zoom into this a bit fill source is set to camera one and you can see the position and the sizing on here now i can go in here and i can type in a number so i can say you know make this uh make this position nine and that would be moved let's go back to this view in fact here i'm going to give you a second i'm going to set it so that you're seeing just the output let's go back to my output for output 2 set that to program boom there you go okay so now you're seeing that output now i'm going to go in and i'm going to change that back to 8 where it was to start with and there you see how that has moved in there but i can i can also instead of typing in numbers you've got these little you've got these little steppers in here but you can also click on the letter like the x-axis letter there and move that so that's going to give you a much more dynamic way to move things around so we've got i'm going to i'm going to do this while you're looking at it but i want to show you the controls you have position and size controls and you can unlink them so you can distort it but clearly that's not something you would normally do and then you've got a mask control so you can crop it you can add a shadow and you can add a border and let's see there's even other stuff we can do in here but those are the main ones so let's do this i'm going to scroll up to here i guess you don't have to see that close i'm going to switch back to this view there we go and now i'm going to start making changes to this go look at the right camera now i'm going to start making changes to it so i'll go into the position and i'm just using a little x that i showed you i click on the x and drag it so there's the position there's the y position all the size is linked so i can scale that oops i just unlike the size so the size is linked i can scale that or for some reason i needed to distort it i can do that and then change the size like so so i have all of that and again just click and drag in here to position it wherever you want if i enable masking this is going to add a border so i can crop into the border on here i sorry a crop i don't know i didn't mean border i'm cropping into that and again i can type in numbers so i'll just type in like 10 on the bottom border and it crops that up or reset that back to zero i can add a drop shadow it's not the greatest shadow in the world but it's a shadow so you can't really change the softness of the shadow but i can change the position of it and i can change the um well it's just the position actually yeah in and out or any angles there's a little little draggy slider position that we want it's not the greatest shadow but it's a shadow and then there's border so i showed you border if i toggle the border off it goes off but with the border on i can set that to any color so let's go to like a red red color border in here or something and there we've got the ability to change the border color you can also change the width on that you can add beveling and do all kinds of funky things to that typically though you know you're going to keep it simple and i think this is a really important aspect of this keep it simple don't get fancy with your borders just a nice simple board if we go back to don't worry gary i'm not going to put your audio on but if i go back to gary and me you can see we're up there we've got a little animated background playing and there's a white border around us just simple clean you know keep it simple right okay let's go back to this so i've got the border control in there i'm going to turn off the border and the fill source again is chosen from here whichever camera i want it to be so that's all very simple setup right that's a simple picture and picture and if i go back in fact let's go back to here if i want to turn that on and off i can use the button on the ATEM to turn it on or off but as soon as i hit one of those corner buttons it goes back into that corner and there's no one doing that so let's talk about how oh actually we'll do macros we're going to come back to macros we'll talk about how to save that as a macro but i want to go into super source next because super source is where we get into a much more powerful way to do our layouts in here so let's turn that off let me go back to the software wrong one actually i should probably multi screen options macros i guess you're still multi-screen options my slides are all over the place let's just ignore the slides there's no slides there are no slides here i'll edit that out later okay um super source so let me explain i explained it briefly earlier but let me explain a little bit more what supersource is so what we were just looking at was the picture in picture it is uh it is an upstream key there's things called upstream keys and downstream keys it's where they are in the flow upstream keys are typically used for things like picture-in-picture multi-pieces multi-screen layouts like this simple multi-screen layouts the downstream key is typically is the last thing in the chain it would typically be used for like a lower third perhaps or a network bug little corporate logo sitting in the corner and that's on top of everything no matter what else is happening underneath it so there's your kind of differentiation between the upstream and the downstream keys the downstream key has a lot less control the upstream you can do all kinds of stuff with it so there's your kind of basics super source is the ability to do a complete custom layout of up to four inputs at once positioning wherever on screen cropped how you want scaled how you want positioned how you want and then the background behind them can be a still graphic or another one of the inputs so that's that's where supersource comes in and that's what you saw when whenever i bring up me and gary that is a supersource layout so supersource is unique to the ATEM mini extreme and up so let me show you i shouldn't say end up because when you get into the big ATEMs it's not on the 1me it is on the 2me uh so you know it's it's uh it's a great feature to have on here anyway so let's go into looking at how that works go back to the computer and first of all you have this button here called supersource when i turn that on that enables supersource so supersource is effectively an input just like any of these others don't want camera one camera two camera three or do i want super source to be up so super source overrides all of this and then i go over to the supersource menu and let's zoom in close here and you have on here a series of presets so these are the little simple preset layouts and but you can completely customize these so let's go back to this view and you're looking at the supersource now i'm going to bring up the first supersource layout and you can see that it has set four four pictures four blocks with a background that is apparently one of the graphics i can go to another super another layout another layout or another layout there and so that represents go back to the computer that represents my siri waking up again honestly um that is was these four presets here that we were just looking at okay so let's i think it's a good idea to start with one of them that's kind of close to what you want and then adjust from there but you know you can start completely from scratch it's totally up to you but let's we'll start with the four let's say i want to build a 2-up supersource just like i've got with gary and i all right i want to build that um so i want two equally sized side-by-side pieces so if i look at my presets the uh i could you know start with this one or i can start with this one and get rid of the other one so we'll go ahead and start with this one and so again if we go back to the view you're seeing that's what you're seeing right now all right let's go ahead and start making some changes to it so i have four different boxes of video those are the four boxes you just saw each one of these can individually be turned on and off so i'm going to turn off box three and box four and so now what we've got is that that is now the current supersource layout so i've just turned off those other boxes all right let's go back into this and i'll go back into box one and i'm gonna set the source for box one to be camera one so now if we go in there there's me hello so there's me in camera one and then i'll set the source for box two to be camera two camera two is currently the ipad and in fact what i'm gonna do is pull up a picture on the ipad so that it actually fills the screen um

there we go um so oh that's interesting no there we go um sorry where's there we go there we go so there's the ipad it is getting to be lunch time can you tell so there's the current setup okay so now i want to get customizing my setup a little bit more so i have my position sliders and the size sliders just like we saw for the upstream key so what i'll do is i'm going to play with these let's start with box one i'm going to play with these but i'm going to do it while you're looking at that so i'm going to take my position for size 1 and move that let's move that down and i'm actually going to scale it up so i said that i wanted to kind of mimic what i had set up with gary so i'll scale that up but now of course that means i have to crop it so i'll enable crop on here and then i'll go to my left and right and we'll start typing the numbers as 10 yep that's probably much let's go for like eight there we go and so i'm going to do the same on the right hand side eight and there we go so now i've got a crop okay so there we've got the first side let's just call it done the first side of that picture in picture maybe i want to add a border to it as well so let's add at a border to do that and go back into here to add a border we have this whole other thing called the art page so what is the fill source for the background um also we have borders there we go so i can also enable borders in here so i'm going to go ahead and oh yeah that's wrong um sorry i'll zoom out of this so i can see what i'm doing um that's not the border for that i am that's the border for the input i think that is all right sorry that's the border for the background where's the border for this why where's my border for that okay i'm completely lying to you i'm not quite sure why i can't find the border for that we'll just come back to that another time so the background is the uh the art rather is the background so it's set to media player one right now so if we go back to this there we go and i switch it to actually here before i shoot that let me show you here media player so there's media player one this grey one is media player two so what i'm going to do is switch this from media player one to media player two so go back to this back to this view switch to media player two and there's that new background okay so now i've got this set up for um for the left side for one side i want the same settings on the other side so let's go back over here there's this copy option i can say copy the settings from box one and let's copy them over to box two i hit copy and now box two is set up just like box one which means of course that it's we're only seeing one because the other one's behind it but all the settings in there all i need to do is move it to the other side so i go back to this and we look at let me zoom back into this we look at box two we see it's the exact same setting see if i go between box one and two it's the exact same settings what i'll do is take the the x position and i'll get rid of the negative and so before i hit return let's go back to this i hit return and boom it moves it over to the other side so now i've got that identical layout so that little copy option is super super handy okay so now i've set up a basic super source that's about as deep as i want to get into as far as different multi-up layouts because it's just there's a million options from here but that is effectively the basics but i do want to talk about the macros and the importance of using a macro to save this layout and that is going to be the last thing we do today so i'm going to do this and we'll come back to more q and a's and then we're going to wrap it for today so the let me let me explain kind of high level what a macro is and then i'll show you how to build one so a macro is a series of saved commands it is a it's just an xml file we'll actually look at that but there's a series of saved commands that are recorded by you doing something to the software or the hardware so on a very simple level i want to switch to input one so i start recording a macro i hit input one that gets recorded into the macro i stop recording and that is all that macro does is it switches to input one i want to build a macro that positions the picture in picture or the super source in this case in this particular layout so i need to go in and record every action that is needed to put the super source that way and this is the really important part of this and i've had this debate with many people about oh macros should work a different way but here's the thing to understand when you are recording a macro it is recording as i said what you do it is not recording the state of the ATEM meaning it is not doing like a snapshot of restore it into this position there is certainly an argument that says hey would be a lot easier if i could say record this state and it's just everything that's in the ATEM restores back to this position and if you think about it from a very simple perspective of i want a picture-picture layout like this and i want another one like that it makes sense right i totally get it the thing is that there are so many commands in here that that are possible in here that if you were to record the state of everything all at once not only would it end up being a massive macro it would be an absolutely huge command that would take quite a while to execute it would potentially override things that you don't want it to override given the current scenario that you're using it sounds a little bit confusing but let me set it up like this so let's say that i'm doing a simple show right i've got camera a camera b i've got audio on camera a and i've got audio from b b is my uh my computer playing videos whatever okay so now i want to build a picture-in-picture layout and i have when i set it up i had it set up where i had audio in on a and b it was all good to go okay so now that's that's the way it's set up i've saved my i which i can't do i've saved this mysterious macro that just saves the whole state of everything so i got picture picture two audio inputs okay cool so i got my picture picture so now i'm doing a live show i'm talking away i've got some video playing on on my on my computer that's playing that it's looping around whatever and i don't want the audio from that i just want to bring up that picture-in-picture layout so i hit picture and picture restore right my macro in this mysterious macro and it restores everything but it suddenly brought in that audio i i didn't want that audio but it brought it in because i would have said i would have saved everything at once if i could have saved that that's not what i want on a more complex level let's say that i have a macro that brings up a enables a an upstream key to bring in a lower third so i can have a macro that just brings up that key that just turns on that key or i can have a macro that turns that on and loads a specific graphic well if i have a if i build a macro that turns it on and let's say it does some other things as well so it's not just you know one button but it turns it on does some other things as well if i had it if i had it bring up a specific file name a specific lower third i would have to have a separate macro for every single potential guest as opposed to a command that says bring up the lower third and before right before i do that i drag in guest number 32's name so i drag that in and then i hit the macro that fires up a bunch of wizzy bang things and brings up that lower third it brings up the lower throw that i've pulled in if it saved everything then i would have to save absolutely everything about the ATEM every time this may not i may not be explaining this the best way possible but effectively if you were to force yourself to save everything it would be really limited to what you could do on a larger scenario so with all that in mind what this ultimately means is a little bit complex when you're building a big complex macro but you literally have to tell the ATEM every single thing that you want it to do and if you don't tell it to do it it's not going to do it if you don't tell it to enable something it's not going to enable it so here's what that comes down to when you're building something like a super source like this i need to go in and tell it every little position scale uh drop shadow whatever and the only way to tell it to do it is to tickle it to basically make a change and change it back so that it records that into the macro so here now i'm going to show you how we actually go about doing this and i apologize that's not the best scenario it's kind of a complex concept but hopefully that made some sense all right let me go back to the computer and as i said i want to create a macro to enable the super source with the way that i've just laid it out so i'm going to first bring up the macro editors command shift m brings up a little macro window and i'll go to create and i can take a blank one here and i'm going to click plus and i'll just call this demo that's called the supersource demo supersource demo okay hit record now at this point you know actually here let me do this let me stop that let me record over this one we'll call this one click demo record switch to camera one stop recording okay so that is literally a one line script that's all it does let's just switch this to camera one now i'm going to build a more complex one then when we look at the xml i'll show you the difference okay so let's go now to a new one record new one record and say super source demo hit record all right so i need to do a bunch of stuff i need to enable supersource that has to be done i have to turn that on then i have to toggle or tickle every single box element or element that could be a part of it so let's start with box one i want it to be on so i turn it off and back on again that act of turning it off and back on again has just told the software to write turn it on it doesn't write turn off and back on again it only writes the last state uh unless you do something else and then come back in which case it will record those but in a case like this it's only going to record the final state of that okay so there we go so i've turned that on i want this to be camera one so i'm going to switch it away and back to camera one position i want to be there so i'm just going to click in here and i'm going to use the up down arrows on my keyboard to tickle that tickle that tickle that crop i want that on so i turn it off and back on i want the top to be zero i need to make sure that i actually tickle it if i don't then it's going to have whatever the previous state of the crop was so again i tickle that tickle that tickle that and tickle that okay so now i've set up box one the way i want it now i need to go to box two and do the same thing enable it make sure that is set to camera two and tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle and there okay so that's all set now box three i don't want box three on see if i don't specifically turn off box three right now then if i had some other layout that was using box three and i go now bring up this layout if i don't tell it to turn off box three the box 3 could still be left behind so again why it's important to make sure that you tackle toggle everything that could be affected by this macro all right so box 3 i want that off and box 4 i want that off and that is now everything that i need to do for oh no sorry i lied i gotta set my my background art i want my background art to be media player two so i'm gonna switch this and toggle it back to media player two and you know just to be safe i'm gonna make sure that that is set to the background okay so that is everything i hope sometimes you do these things and then you're like oh i missed something so now i've sorry i didn't i didn't mean to do that i should have this back up here the last thing i'd done there sorry about that was i toggled that media player wanted to and i switched that from the foreground to the background while i was recording and then i hit stop and we've got that recorded now okay so now that is ready to go um let's go into the run position it's set to recall and run which means it's just one click to do it so now if i move this over here if i hit one click demo you see it switches this if i hit super source demo it switches back to this but everything here changed so let's go into here and i will reset the super source right so it's totally reset back to the let's do this one here or you can see the numbers in here everything is different i run super source demo and everything you said let's go back to box one reset this back to box one you see all the settings in here i hit super source demo and everything gets changed the way it needs to be so this is running that entire script at once so if i let's actually show this to you in action like so i'm going to use that preset so i just set back to that default preset and then i'm going to switch to say camera 2 input and now i'll hit that super source demo button and boom in one effect it does it now you might have seen there's a little bit of a flicker in there did you see that watch let's do this again go back to camera two and let's see actually i'm gonna redo the layout there we go back to camera two and now hit the super source demo button there so you see how it there's that little flicker in there you know why it flickered i'll tell you why it flickered it flickered because i enabled supersource first in the command and then i executed all those changes so the software is going to run the command in order and line by line it's just code right so it's going to first enable supersource and then do all those things so what i really want is for all those things to happen first and then for supersource to get enabled but i don't have to redo the whole thing well this is where editing the xml comes in this is where we can actually edit the code which is pretty cool this is definitely a bit arcane and complex but i promise you once you start to wrap your head around this it's actually pretty straightforward to do so here we go i'm going to go in here and save this out so um go to the save as command and i'm going to let's go put this live demo i'm going to call it that and hit save now what do i want to save you have all these options of what can get saved into this xml file your your layouts your super source positions all kinds of stuff which is really powerful way to set up a a backup of everything or to have multiple setups let's say that you use your hardware to stream live stream weddings and you also use it to do i don't know dance parties you might have totally different layouts for those so what i can do is set up my layout as i want it for weddings and then i can save out a wedding xml file settings file and then i can do the one that i do for what i say dj whatever other events save that as a separate xml file and then when i go to a different type of event i just call that up and everything everything about the atm is restored to that way super cool right so i've got all that but right now i don't need all that all i care about right now is the macros i don't need pages and pages of code that i'm going to have to sort through so what i'll do instead is just say select none and then enable macros now it's only going to save the macros into that file i hit save and now i'm going to launch bb edit because bb edit is my software choice for doing this editing let me close the previous one hit open and live demo there it is you'll notice as well that it automatically appends a date and time stamp to the moment that you saved it which is super super awesome so you can have multiple states as you go so that's set up live demo click open and there's the code and anybody who's not used to looking at this stuff goes what the actual what do you come on man this isn't easy i i get it take a little bit of time with it and it starts to make sense it's written in english the names actually do make sense you read the names and you go okay now i get what it's doing um that just takes a little time to get used to anyway here's the way this all works here's the reason i like using bb edit by the way it automatically does this color coding this is not part of the file this is bb edit it automatically does the color coding and indents things so you can really easily see what's happening so if i close everything and hold down the option key and toggle all that close and open it up again we'll see we have all the macros in here open that up there's all the macros by name and i open up one of these and there's all the macro code okay so there's that one click demo that i did i opened that and here it is there is the code program input so that's your input right so program meaning it's what's on air not the preview pane but the program pane so program input what input right and then the number uh program input and input is camera one so if i wanted to change this to camera two let's say that i had written this big complex script but i triggered the wrong input or i decided later you know what i'd rather have my main camera on input three um but i still wanna use the same script i can go in here and modify i'll modify the xml and just change that in there right really really handy so i can change that so that's that one thing in there that's it that's one line that does that but now let's look at the more complex one the supersource demo okay so program input was set to supersource remember i said that the super source is basically just treated as an input well that's the very first line of code in here so that's why i get that flicker because it turns that on and then changes everything so here you can see all the different things that it changes so source uh box enable that's source uh the super source box enable and then enable box index zero this is one of those okay here's one of those things that definitely gets confusing the inputs are one through eight and they're labeled as camera inputs one through eight a lot of the stuff in the ATEM starts at zero instead of starting at one so position one is number zero position two is number one position three is number two it's don't get me started um but it's something you need to be aware of so again you get used to it um anyway so box index that first box is index zero and on box zero it's gonna get camera one and then here's the position the x and y positions for it and all those lines in there everything that i toggles is all here okay so all that is set but remember i said that i want to have it switch the super source at the end so what i'm going to do is just go and take that whole line of text zoom out just a little bit and i can hit command x to cut that and i go down here to the very bottom and paste that in and now it's happening at the very end so i've just moved that to the end now there are if you're doing this there are uh there it's there's a possibility that you will still see a little flicker in there because what happens is certain actions take time for the ATEM to actually complete and by time we're talking frames of time frames of video time very short but they might take time the commands are executed in one long string but basically as quickly as it can execute it so what this means is that let's say that you're executing through this long stream of commands and here's a command like reposition that is going to take more than one frame of video to execute and then it keeps on running other commands and then you've got your bring it on air so if you bring it on air first and then you actually get demands you see that change we don't want that so you bring it on air afterwards so you execute all the commands and then you bring it on air but wait a minute i just saw a like not the full flicker but i saw something happen because this command here that takes time didn't have time to finish before you brought it on air so you can actually add what's called a sleep a macro sleep to it and it just pauses the macro it says macro hold up wait a moment before executing the next line and that macro sleep is measured in frame so you can put a macro sleep of one frame two frames whatever and quite often a single frame sleep will solve that flicker problem so just one of those troubleshooting things if you're doing that the first way to avoid the flicker is by moving the bring that thing on to air to the end and the second way to avoid it if that isn't enough is to add that sleep at the very end i'll show you how to record this actually i probably have one in here let's see here if i do a find in here and i search for sleep uh i guess i don't have one in here so i'll show you how to record asleep in a moment anyway so i saved that to the end i moved it to the end all right so now i'm going to save this file i'm going to do a save as and this is just my own little technique for doing these i'm going to change the date and time stamp on here so it is 58 and i'm not going to add seconds at the end the fact that it doesn't have seconds at the end is my own personal indicator that i did this i could i could put like my initials on there if i wanted to but i know now that i have actually touched this as opposed to one that was automatically generated do it everyone you can add your name to it if you want to it doesn't matter anyway so i do that and but i do change the time so that it keeps things in order and then i save that all right and now let's go back to the ATEM and we go to the restore menu hit restore that brings up a save dialogue somewhere there it is and there's the one that i just touched so i'll hit restore it's going to bring up just like this the save dialogue it brings up this option to choose what you want it to restore the only thing it can restore is macros because that's all that's there but if i had a full xml package here but i didn't want anything but the macros to restore i could select none and then say just restore the macros so that's up and then i hit restore there is a progress it's already finished but there's a little progress down there you might have seen it it shows the completion level and that's it so now i bring up my macros and um there's my one-click demo again and there's my supersource demo so now it's going to do something different where it's moving that flicker to the end so here's how i'm going to demo it i'm going to reset the supersource let's go back to camera one on here now i'm going to switch over so that you can see what's happening and now i'm going to trigger that macro look at the right camera here i'm going to trigger that macro and because i have moved that load super source to the end we shouldn't see the flicker so where's the button and that we still saw the flicker so i need to add a sleep in there okay so let's do it this is perfect so we actually are going to do it let's go back to the macro back to the screen view i'm going to record a simple sleep so bring up my macros here's that's actually another really cool thing is that when i want to add something in like let's say that i go oh i forgot to enable the border right i forgot to enable the border or in this case i forgot to add a sleeper now i need to add a sleep i don't have to re-record everything i can record just that one little piece that i need and then go into the xml and add it in which is what i'm going to do right now so i go in and i hit request hit record i'm just going to call this sleep and you see up here it says add pause i click on that and i say add a pause for one frame add pause that's it stop recording so now i've just recorded a a sleep command which isn't going to do anything right now but again i can use that code later so i'm going to hit command shift s to save and go away and here's another little tip for you to keep the naming the same what i'll do is click on that name so that loaded sorry you didn't see that when it happened let me let me redo that because it's a really neat trick let me cancel that and save as okay so you see right now it says untitled i want to name it the same as this so i'll click on that one that file and it brings up that same file name and then i'll just delete the timestamp so that it will have that same base name and then add its own timestamp to it so just nice little trick there hit save again select none adjust the macros and save okay back to bb edit close the existing one open the new one there it is and find that sleep command

one click demos must be after that there it is sleep so macro sleep there's the command now i can take this and copy this line and i'm not going to cut it i'm going to leave that there because i might want to use it later and just hit command c copy i'm going to go up here before the super source comes on and paste that in so paste in there i'm going to add two frames of sleep just to for safety in here add that in let's save that command shift f s to save following my guidelines i will timestamp it as two and not but the seconds after it click on save back over to here command r to reload bring up that hit okay now i'm just moving fast because you know you don't need to see everything maybe you saw the progress down there now let's do the switch up again so i'll reset my macro my super source i'm going to load up camera one let's go to the input there's the right input and bring up the command and that's where i go i hope everything works the way i planned it to and i hit the super source demo boom and it worked so you saw that there was a ever so slight pause two frame pause but we did not get that flicker in there so super powerful so i just showed a bunch of stuff at once in there explained kind of haphazard way why you have to do macros the way that you do i'll show you how to record the macro hit record give it a name do whatever you got to do stop recording and there's your macro to edit it export that xml file open it up in an app like bb edit and change whatever you need you can reorder things you can change things go oh i should have gone to camera one instead of camera two um i want to make the border red instead of blue punch in the code for that i want to

pick your thing add sleep in there all that you can do and then i showed you how you can record a single line of a macro and then add that in later on super super useful for sure you can also borrow code from other things right like you've got oh i did this layout right at this i did another switcher for this i want to build one that does all of these things so you can go in and just copy blocks of code out of one and paste them into another super useful and always always always always do a save as don't open up that xml and just hit command s because then when you restore it if you broke something you have no way to go back by doing a save as command command shift s on a pc whatever that is but save as for that xml file then you can always go back if you totally botch it you can go back and restore and go okay i don't know what just happened let me start over and go back one step so definitely they're tiny little text files you know it's not gonna fill up your hard drive okay that's everything for today gary do we have other questions i'm gonna bring gary back up here and let's see if we've got any other questions we want to hit right now and um and otherwise otherwise we're gonna call it lunch okay so um there's a few questions and um first of all i'll add a couple of comments about the um supersource and the macro as everything that joseph said is is spot on there here's a trick that some users go by for super source macros that works quite well in most cases because of the the fact that you can actually import an xml and select super source components by themselves it's easy to set up a supersource macro set up a super source exactly the way you want it then save that setting to an xml file and then record a macro called super source however you want and then just import that super source macro component only because that's probably the one case of the whole set of ATEM controls that you can do that and that mac that importing that supersource xml will tickle all the things that need to be changed for just that part of the switcher so um once you do that stop recording and then you'll find that you'll have those presets with everything about the super source and that means everything so there may not be there may be things you didn't want they will be set up and you'll be able to switch to that preset quite easily the thing that that doesn't do is it won't add any um delay like like joseph showed there the delay by the way is mostly necessary because um the when you change an input to a box the actual input is a frame weight because the delay in the box is a frame later than the rest of the super source so that's why that's necessary but if you were to if you were to say recall the supersource preset before it was on the air then you wouldn't need to add that delay because it'd already be be there but usually it's when you're changing from one super source preset to another that you need to deal with that uh delay and pause and things like that so that's just what i can interrupt just to be clear when you're talking about importing a another macro you mean to trigger the macro while you're recording it correct yes so what actually happens is um this is a unique case but you've you've already preset the super source exactly how you want it and you save the xml you save that setup to an xml file not a macro just an xml file then you start the recording process of the macro and then import just the super source settings from that file you saved and then stop the macro or you can add other changes that you want but the fact is is that when the mac when the xml is loaded from the switcher to the switcher those settings will get changed because they're actually modified through the uh through the xml um they will be part of the recording process interesting i've never actually tried that i'll try that okay cool it's just a unique uh feature of the super source there might be some other areas in the switcher you can get away with that but a lot of times it's pretty the settings like you say it's pretty broad because so many settings get saved with the xml that it might cause that right okay cool okay the other thing about super source that you stumbled on was the borders in the mini the many extreme borders are not available due to resources so they're they're not available so the best way to handle borders is to create a piece of artwork um and then you put that artwork on the foreground on top of your boxes and that will create borders and and quite often there will be nicer looking borders because they'll be exactly the way you you want them to be

got it

okay i'll look at some other things okay um if you if you're going to talk about this tomorrow you can say so uh the question is what kind of key works best with ATEM and what can make a green screen look smoother and if you're going to talk about that later you can defer yes i'm actually not planning on going into green screen tomorrow i did green screen quite a bit in the previous webinar and so i'll refer you back to watching that one just because i did go into it quite in depth but i will give you some some hints um getting a really clean key is is definitely a challenge but the keyer that is built into the atms is very very good it's remarkably good honestly for for what it is um and for what you're paying for it you know really like high-end keywords cost into thousands and tens of thousands of dollars so it's really remarkable it's in there but one of the tricks to getting a good clean well two of the tricks i'll tell you for getting a clean one first of all it's a bit obvious the background make sure that it is evenly lit and when i say evenly lit it doesn't mean you shine a light on you stand back and go yep that looks even you want to be really even look at it with a camera with a histogram on it and look for an even line uh on the histogram if you see a big spike at the ends and that's going to tell you they've got big shadows at the end or highlights at the ends or don't fall off you see a big shadowing around the edges or you'll see big spikes in it where there's hot spots you want that to be as even as you can that's that's a really important first part of it um that's just for getting a nice simple key out of the background but then the edges to make the edges look clean the best way to do that that i've found at least is to backlight your subject have a hair light have a backlight that's hitting them and that act of having that little halo of light around every strand of hair or whatever puts a little bit of separation between the hair for example this is where you're gonna mostly see problems the hair and the green or blue background and it just makes the whole thing look so much cleaner so it's it doesn't take much just a little bit of a backlight on the back and that makes a really really big difference

ooh i don't hear you gary

gary is gary's muted you're muted we can't hear you can't hurt you can't hear you there we go

the red button is right in front of me and it's uh it's red too uh um several people have been asking and you'll probably ask by the end of the uh the show here today but um a link to your site what uh link should they go to to find your site for the previous shows yeah so my my main website is photojoseph.com but on youtube and you'll find everything on there but on youtube on youtube as photojoseph and also photojust live those are the two youtube channels the previous live webinar is actually uploaded to the photojoseph live channel um because it was a live event so i put it there but it did really well there so i'm actually going to put this one on the main channel next week but photojoseph just type photojoseph into google you'll find everything

would you recommend using the ipad or other device for playback such as hyperdeck and then one of the pluses and minuses for using different approaches for playback okay that's a great question um i'll talk a bit more about the hyper deck tomorrow but the nice thing as i was explaining about using the ipad is this very tactile right in front of you scroll through your library tap a video call it up it goes full screen you don't have to worry about the play bar interface showing up if you accidentally move your mouse like if you're playing it from a computer so using the ipad for video playback is a really nice way to go the hyperdeck gives you for play it also can the hyperdeck can also record but as a playback device the hypertech is really cool because you can program video certain video files to play and build that into a macro so you can have a macro that you trigger that says play video number three and then it plays that so if you've got like a you know interstitial commercial you want to run you can hit a button it fires that up and it hits play so that's certainly an advantage there and you can control all that through the ATEM itself as opposed to just a random input like the ipad would be so there's advantages to both sides if you were doing it casually then use an ipad or even a computer it's just dead easy you already have everything that you need if you're doing it regularly especially if you're going to be calling up specific videos on a regular basis then doing the hyperdeck can certainly be a good way to do that oh one more thing actually with a hyperdeck okay i'm not sure if you said this or not but somebody said what brand and model of sdi to hdmi converter that you mentioned did you have another one that you were using for some purpose or were you using the blackmagic ones it's it's just the blackmagic one so it's this one here oh actually i'll do a close-up this way uh there we go you see this is this is that bi-directional one that gary mentioned uh i'm obviously just using the one direction but it's hdmi in find the right there we go hdmi in sdi out and so that is because i need to move this over to my uh take this signal into my sdi driven switcher so that's why i have this here but yeah the blackmagic one i will um offer several comments about that i hope i don't forget them the micro converter bi-directional 3g with the number 3g at the end because we make two models like that that's the one that's designed to work with the ATEM mini or actually the ATEM sdi switchers so that you can actually incorporate our hdmi cameras into an sdi switcher and use camera control and vice versa where you can incorporate our sdi based cameras into the ATEM minis and have camera control you would use that particular bi-directional micro converter 3g to do that because it has the functionality built in to do that the older microconverter uh doesn't have that capability so try not to get confused with that um but i think one thing that might come up and is useful to know a bi-directional micro-converter the way ours are designed um if you're using both sides you know basically you're feeding hdmi and sdi then the outputs will be the respective opposite inputs as you would expect if you do not feed one of the inputs then both of the outputs both hdmi and sdi will carry the output of the single feed it's a quite useful feature and i think it's and it just automatically works and it's just fine there is uh one side effect that you might be uh it might be useful to know is that your two feeds that you're actually running through it if you do not ever want the feed of one side to appear on the other side's content then do not use the product to do that because it's quite common for like power up or maybe if somebody disconnects a cable that will cause the feed of one side to then appear on the other side and and if that's not what you ever want to happen i wouldn't recommend using that converter otherwise it's a brilliant uh feature for that

this checking are you going to be talking about iso recording specifically in res

yeah so tomorrow i will do i think it's the first thing on the agenda tomorrow i'll talk about doing the iso recording using the pocket cinema cameras to record b-raw and then taking that recording into resolve and re-linking to the raw files so that whole workflow i'm going to go through tomorrow morning

can you talk about air flow and heat dissipation uh with the different models and the best way to deal with uh with that to prevent possible problems so i've heard this before people saying that the the hardware gets really hot and it does uh but it's designed for it right it's designed to handle the heat it has vents on the sides so you definitely don't want to block those vents you can feel them like right here i can feel barely moving a bit of moving air but don't block them i mean that's you know here let me look at the overhead view here so there's vents on the sides here if we look at the side view close-up view we should be able to see them you can see those vents in there the bottom right now putting my hand on it is quite hot not like scalding hot but it is definitely hot uh but it's designed for it right this hardware is designed to take it all electronic devices get hot this will definitely get hot but not it's not gonna hurt itself it's designed to do it you can buy third-party stands to hold it up a little bit which will add a little airflow underneath it if you want to but you certainly don't have to but don't block the sides that's super super important don't block the sides

yeah i'm sure i showed that but i'll jump back into that again so if we look at the software and i go to the audio tab you have a row of eqs and dynamic controls for each input so each one of these has its own inputs that can be enabled and as i enable them there we see a little graphic and a little graphic update here to show you how that's been set so you know as i change the eq on this one change the eq on this one we'll see that represented up there as well you just click on each one of these to call that up and you have individual controls for every input so all the way across every input and then there's a master control that you can add as well at the end if you want to

okay i'm just looking at some just last minute question and trying to do two things at once here

the question is what was the other thing about the hyperdeck that uh you weren't able to finish saying with i did i missed something there i don't think so so the hyperdex i may have i mentioned that they can be used for recording and for playback oh oh oh right because i understand what they're saying because gary when you're i know because you're hearing yourself you're pulling your ears out while you're muting the when so i was trying to talk over you and you realize you couldn't hear me the other thing about the hyperdex that's really cool is they have a dual sdi output and that gives the ability to play something with a key and a fill so you can make a video that is a a prores 444 file which has an alpha channel you load that in and then you can have graphics that come up with transparency on them so if you wanted to have a animated let's say a lower third animated thing with you know worldwide swizzy graphics and a name that bounces in or whatever you can do that by rendering that out of say after effects or apple's motion or whatever so you have that prores 444 file load that on the piper deck and then play that out but it does mean that you have to output both sdi outputs if you're going to use it with one of these atms convert both of those to hdmi and then bring them in on two different channels and you have to make sure you set that up properly to run two channels in here and gary i don't know the new hyperdex i haven't i don't have one um the newest one does it have dual hdmi out as well as dual sdi out or is it still single hdmi out so you'd still have to convert it to hdmi to use with the ATEM mini that's correct it's a single hdmi out and however that single output could be output number one or the the fill material and then one of the sdis could be converted to hdmi uh for the key oh okay

no sync issues if you do that

oh you can't hear me what was that i said no sync issues if you do that having one on sdi and one on hdmi no okay cool i've actually tested that here so i know that that works

let me think here

while he's oh go ahead so how about keys for other things that aren't always green screen which one works best for you luma chroma linear upstream downstream it's kind of a broad question yeah that's a pretty broad question so let me let me go back and just to explain what the question is and let me get this set up okay so go back to the software so what the question is about these types of keys that are here you look at the upstream key you've got a luma key chroma key pattern key and a dve key so if you're doing a green screen type thing that's a chroma key right that's always going to be a chroma key and you can chrome a sample and choose the color and that is traditionally either blue or green but technically it doesn't matter it can be any color of the rainbow but the reason that we traditionally use these bright greens or these bright blues is because they're so far removed from things that people normally would wear the color of hair or anything like that that it makes it easy to separate but if you wanted to let's say you wanted to have a green subject and then like a really bright green subject you could set a red chroma background a red background and then key that out you totally could um so if you're doing color keying then that's a chromakey chroma for color if we go back to this the luma key is about this is about using something like that ATEM sorry like the hyperdeck where you have a fill and a key source so playing back from video this isn't for keying out of the image this is for pulling in two different video feeds so you see here it's listed as media player one and media player one key but if you were doing it via video maybe it would be like you know camera seven is my um my video fill and camera eight is my key fill and so effectively what's happening is the the hyper deck or tomorrow we'll talk about this actually from the um the the 4k whatever it's called i forget now my playback device that outputs dual sdi you're actually seeing a color version of your video right let's say your logo with a black background and then a the second channel is a black and white key version of that a masked version of that they're playing simultaneously and so here you're telling the software use this feed the one with my color logo as the fill and then use this black and white mask version as the key and that combines the two just like an alpha channel in photoshop it combines the two and now you have transparency so that's how that works the other types of keys in here are pattern and dve the pattern key is like the picture in picture it could be a square it could be a circle could be diamond could be any of these little preset shapes and you can alter those and then the dve is really just about that's kind of how we did the picture picture in the first place it's about bringing in a source and then cropping it and repositioning it so it's not using any funky shapes it's just cropped and scaled so those are the four different types of keys that you have access to in there

okay how do the ATEMs talk to the cameras over hdmi is it ethernet on hdmi is it hdcp how are they able to talk and send commands back and forth through hdmi if you want i can answer that or you can sure go ahead so basically the hdmi that we use supports a um a channel called cec or consumer electronics control i believe it's the sort of thing that normally you you connect the device to your tv set and it communicates with the tv and uh you know the tv communicates with the device and tells it what settings to use and things like that so we're using this cec channel and the reason why i do say this is that if you actually use an hdmi extension cable which could be possible it has to support cec or there will not be any bi-directional communication so that's an important thing to note that anytime the hdmi goes through something it has to pass that back channel to work we don't use the ethernet channel and the other thing about that is uh hdmi extensions using fiber optics are quite good and there are many uh really good fiber optic extension products out there and they will say they support cec i mean you need to see that on the box or on the specifications and they will work good for long extension cables that he probably has one in his hand right now yeah so that's it's interesting um i don't know if you can hear hdcp is is an excellent question you can say we either support it or not but but the point is if this has uh copy protection enabled uh the ATEM will never pass it in any way shape or form um uh officially so um the best way to uh treat that is you know we we take cameras but um set-top cable boxes and things like that are always going to be a blank screen to us um so that's how we talk uh hdmi okay so i guess before i did my show that i did on the long fiber cables um i should have talked to you about it so these are this is two fiber hdmi cables this one is 300 feet 300 feet of fiber hdmi and this was 100 feet of fiber hdmi and these support arc arc or e-arc and i'm just looking at the amazon page where i bought them they don't say anything about cec but they do support arc which i'm guessing is largely the same protocol because these do work as long as they are arc cables they do work to support the blackmagic camera control

i just i never heard of the cec before so i guess i should have asked him before i did that video but yeah if you have a i did a video on this recently if you look at my youtube channel about i'm using super long hdmi cables it's over fiber those fiber cables they're remarkably affordable and if they support arc then they work so that's awesome

are there any other questions okay i don't i think the rest of questions can fit tomorrow i'm going to answer a few of them just online real quick okay all right super all right well thank you very much gary uh thank you everybody for watching today that was an awesome first go we two and a half hours in so tomorrow we will pick up where we left off um like i said let me i'll actually pull up the agenda for tomorrow again just so you can see that so let me get that get the right slide up and i'm swiffing through my splits here that was today hopefully we did everything that was planned for today oh that's why it's taking a long time because i have little animations on there that was silly okay so tomorrow iso recordings and b raw is where we start hyper deck for recording and playback we're getting into the ATEM streaming bridge it's not a whole lot to show there but i just want to show how that works we'll also talk a little bit about the web presenter hd and the new 4k model and then uh we're going to get a bit focused companion with the elgato stream deck which is just such a cool way to do everything and also talk about nemo live and the ultra studio 4k that was the word i couldn't remember earlier that is uh it's just it's awesome so just to give you a little teaser of that the ultra studio 4k is what allows me to do things like bring up this little lower third branding on there or even bring up a little hit the wrong button bring up a little animated subscribe button um okay so i should probably let that actually finish there we go that is all handled through memo live and through that 4k ultra studio 4k so we're going to take a look at all of that tomorrow all right guys that's it for now thank you so much for tuning in today i hope we'll see you again tomorrow in in what 21 and a half hours from now we'll see you back here again take care everybody we'll see you tomorrow bye-bye hey folks that was all of day one we're about to get into day two and i just want to remind you that you are watching this ad free other than the ad of me now asking you to consider becoming a channel member that's it promise let's get to part two all righty good morning good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to day two of this webinar this is the blackmagic ATEM webinar i am your host photojoseph and i am going to take you on a big old whirlwind tour today of a bunch of stuff that is kind of add-on supplementary to the ATEM uh mostly we have got some things to do within the atm itself still so a couple of things first a couple things on the agenda um first of all yesterday we were getting a lot of feedback that the quality of the stream was quite low we're aware of that and that's just a limitation of zoom zoom will only allow us to output a 1280p so 720 by 1280 webinar however 720p i guess um however today we're doing something a little bit different we have added a simultaneous stream to youtube this is a private stream just for you guys and that link is in the chat right now if you just go to photojoseph.com ATEM webinar it'll redirect you to that youtube link don't save that youtube link because it won't be there once this is over but you can save that photojoseph.com webinar that will redirect you to the upload of this which will go up hopefully next week so go to that and you'll be able to watch this webinar in full 1080p it'll be much better quality than what you've got in zoom however don't leave zoom i still need you to stay in zoom for the q a and the uh and the the comments the comment system in zoo sorry the comment system in youtube is shut down so all chit chat all chatter has to happen over on the zoom platform yes it means you have two windows running at once but you can obviously mute the zoom one and hopefully that will work out for you so with that said let me jump into the agenda and uh and we'll get started so let's see here that's the wrong one oops look at that it looks like my sharing stopped let me uh fix that momentarily wonder how that happened it was sharing 10 minutes ago i guess i just decided to drop the share come on screen mirroring so i'm just in case you're curious because people always love to know the setup the way that i'm showing the slides which are let's see here make sure they're back to playing and there we go which are there we go now that's working although it's not you know everything breaks i added like 15 things last night and a couple new ones this morning and apparently i broke a few things how did it break my slide split well that's very unfortunate quite that happened well anyway the way that i was supposed to be doing this so i got the slides here and this is obviously an ipad and this is obviously wireless and it is screen mirroring to a little cheap little uh receiver it's a um i don't know the name of it but it's just this cheap little receiver that can receive the airplay from the ios devices it can receive it from a google device it's like 20 bucks or something plugged into one of the inputs on an ATEM and so i am just feeding this to there we're supposed to have a split screen with me on the screen there as well i don't know quite what happened somehow i broke that but anyway let's just move through these slides real quick like and get to the point so the point is the format first of all questions themselves if you have questions drop them into the zoom q a module there is a separate chat module from the zoom q a module use the chat module please then oh yeah i might might take a water break manage not to do one yesterday um also just repeat in case you just tuned in this is being simultaneously streamed at higher quality to youtube turn the volume down on the zoom one watch the one on youtube and you'll have a much better quality experience that link is in the chat module you can go check that out right now okay so let's see here the agenda slides back up there we go so yesterday we went through introduction to the ATEM setup and switching basics audio basics we went through multi-screen options to some degree didn't go super super deep into it we talked about macros and we talked about camera control today here's today's agenda we are starting with iso recording and b-raw this is the ability to record a live show with all of its switching data and its isos on the ATEM on a little external drive but simultaneously record b raw in the cameras with the blackmagic box cinema cameras and then link those up so we're going to go through that whole process bring it into resolve i'm going to show you exactly how that works it's really cool then after that we are going to have a chat about the hyper deck and we're going to talk about how you can use the hyper dex for both recording and for playback we're going to talk about the ATEM streaming bridge not a whole lot this is going to be a fairly quick one but we'll talk about that we'll talk about the web presenter hd and there's now a new model of the 4k so we'll talk a little bit about that and then we get into some of the fun third-party stuff this is starting with bit focus companion and elgato stream deck and then we will finish it up with mimo live and the ultra studio and 4k mini and truth be told those last two are going to be kind of uh all in one together because the way that i use them is all together so it'll be uh there'll be a lot happening in one piece there but that's how that's going to go now before we get started today there were some questions that came in yesterday that we didn't get time to answer i want to actually start with these because i just want to make sure first of all that everybody who attended yesterday gets their question answered and um and some of these are really really good questions so we're just going to dive right into these again throughout the day today if you have questions drop them into the q a pod gary from blackmagic who is here on the show with me you know everybody can wave at gary now there's gary and he's here with me today he will be coming up to ask your new questions as they come in so drop your questions in the q a whenever you want he will aggregate those refine them and then read them to me as we go but for yesterday's questions some leftover questions this is a this is a good one and kind of a tough one to answer what would be your list of must-haves for one-person operation this is a great question and i've as you can see here i'm doing a one-person operation if you saw the picture that i posted on twitter yesterday of this my view of this it's kind of insane and this is this is this insane because i'm doing a webinar about ATEMs using ATEMs so it's quite meta the way things all tie together there's a lot of stuff here certainly not what you need to get started with a one-person operation so the basics of a one-person operation if it's in your budget i would certainly recommend the ATEM mini extreme over the smaller models primarily because of the super source that's just that's even when you're just starting out supersource is so awesome to have so that's going to be the number one reason to have it you probably don't need all eight inputs you uh you can get away without the headphone port but having the super source that's pretty sweet so you can swing it do that if you can't understandable go for one of the smaller ones totally fine so you need obviously an ATEM your cameras the blackmagic pocket cinema cameras are ideal for a live streaming setup like this because you get the whole iso recording camera control all that stuff we talked about yesterday but again higher end cameras not necessarily in everybody's budget the cheapest camera that i know of and i have yet to be corrected last time someone tried to correct me somebody else corrected them that they were in fact wrong the cheapest camera that i know of that will work with this system is the panasonic lumix g7 and i'm not saying that just because i'm on just because i'm a lumix ambassador but it actually is to my knowledge the cheapest one why what makes a camera usable for this kind of a setup two things there's two requirements for a camera to be able to be used in a live stream setup through the ATEM number one is clean hdmi out that means that when you plug in the hdmi cable from the camera into the ATEM you can go into the menus in the camera and turn off all of the other metadata all that screen data you know tells you what your exposure is and your focus all those settings have to go away that's called clean hdmi out cameras don't market with that terminology they don't necessarily say it has clean hdmi out sometimes you have to dig into the menus but that is required the second thing that is required and you can get away without this to some degree but it really makes it much better to have and that is a microphone port on the camera granted the ATEMs do have microform torts built into them so you could get away with plugging your microphone into the ATEM as discussed yesterday you will have to deal with the latency issue and do a delay in the ATEM and the delay on the g7 is significant so you will be maxing out the delay capabilities of the ATEM to make it match it'll work but you're still much better off running your audio through the camera it's just easier so those are the two requirements so that g7 is the cheapest camera it's like five hundred to five hundred fifty dollars i've actually seen it on sale for as low as 450 and that's a camera with a lens so that's that's what you need there a microphone you need to have a good microphone the cheapest good mic that you can get is going to be a wired lavalier mic so a little lavalier like i'm wearing here but wired straight into the camera or into the uh the ATEM itself as you move up from there you can get into boom mics which have advantages and disadvantages but a really good boom mic is going to give you a better quality sound it's going to give you a more focused sound but a it costs more b they often have to run through xlr or audio interfaces or you have to power them themselves if you know have batteries in them but the problem the biggest problem with using a boom or shotgun mic for any kind of live event is as you let's say that i had one pointing at me here as i moved over here it would get quieter and i moved back and it gets louder again if i turn around it gets quieter so if you're doing something where you're all over the place throughout your live show your audio is going to be affected whereas by wearing a lavalier mic it doesn't matter where you go which direction you face everybody can hear you equally so advantage of the lavalier obviously if it's wired then you can't go very far but then you can step up to wireless lavaliers like i'm wearing now so lots of different ways to go there advantages disadvantages each side but the cheapest way is going to be a wired lavalier microphone you can get cheap ones off amazon for probably like 10 20 bucks if you want to spend a little bit more money rode makes some really nice ones for about 100 and there's a bunch of them out there so you know read the reviews pick something something that's not awful um lighting you know you can get away without lighting right you can start without lighting especially if you're very aware of lighting set up next to a window don't have a window behind you you know think about your backdrop and your setup and oops um sorry i guess i forgot to put on do not disturb today um set up your background and your and your uh lighting to be as good as you can if you can be buy a big window so you get nice big light from there instead of having just your overhead lights in your ceiling that's going to be better overhead lights and ceiling are usually awful you want to have light that's more at your level shining at you so as you start adding lights but you don't need lighting to start you can start without it get a good window light just set up everything properly and you're good to go um needs you need some kind of a monitor to be able to see what's going on on the a-temp i mean need you can get away without it but that's a little bit sketch to be doing it totally blind but you can use any hdmi monitor right it can be just some cheap old monitor you have laying around you can go to best buy or whatever and buy the cheapest hdmi television that you can get that's you could probably spend less than 100 bucks and get something that will allow you to monitor your your uh your scene your setup and then if you're using the and well basically any of the models of the ATEM mini that do the streaming will have the multi-view out and so that's what you really want to see you want to see that multi-view um you can the switcher the camera microphone optional lighting the monitor those are kind of your basics that's like that's what you need you can't really you can't live stream without a way to live stream that's the ATEM without a camera to see you and without a microphone to hear you everything above that is gravy so those are the those are the biggies i hope that helps i hope that helps next one is there anything you can do is there anything you can do with a stream deck that you can't accomplish with a touch portal great question so we'll we'll see some of this later on the stream deck is hardware it's so i changed my view here i made it a little bit tighter but if i go to the overhead and i pull this in this is the stream deck as a physical interface you can see all the buttons from today's show on here i can load that same interface up on a uh on a web browser so that i just or on an ipad's for touch so that i just see it you have the same controls as far as using something like companion goes however the stream deck does have additional functions within itself that have nothing to do with companions software interface so like on my desk so this big one here is normally living on my desk when i'm not doing a live show i'm using it as a launcher you know you got all these buttons on there for all my favorite apps and that might seem gratuitous and it is but you know it's there so i'm going to use it and i have found that i actually really like having it as a launcher right now because it's here i was at my desk this morning and i keep you know wanting to launch an app but i'm like it's not there spotlight launch the app so it's really great for that but as far as live streaming goes the there's no difference in capabilities uh if you're using companion that's that's the copy out there you have to be using companion there's no difference in the capabilities but having that touch that tactile the buttons is really nice you feel more confident in making your switch especially when you're trying to hit something out of the corner of your eye or just glancing momentarily it's like you'll see me as i glance down you know i'll glance down very quickly and i'll grab the switch the cameras in there but i'm not going uh well sometimes i am because i can't find the button but i'm not generally going uh which button is it and then be very careful because with the touch interface you know you've got no tactile feedback when you reach down for it if you're off on the button a little bit it's very easy to you know go and go i hit the wrong button where's the right button and then you bring it back so it is nice to have not required but definitely nice okay

is there a limitation for the ATEMs recording function file size limitation and recording length um and gary you made a comment here that you can help with this uh the only thing that i know of is to say that the the limitation is just the size of this drive however big drive you put on here that's the maximum i don't know if there's anything beyond that gary i'll bring you up here that you wanted to add this more than that i think that some of the problems that people run across are the fact that uh there's a certain file size that we have to stop uh recording and starting a new uh start a new file and this is due to the header uh restrictions and how the the thing was designed there's a lot of ways this could be done but it was chosen to pick a certain file size for the header so basically if you record for a real long time you're going to have multiple files but they should be end to end contiguous i think yeah the size shouldn't matter the size of the disc uh is pretty much what we go by because we can fill up one disc and then auto uh trickle over to the next next disc uh in the set so that shouldn't be a problem all right thanks gary yeah that's something i actually didn't mention yesterday when we were talking about the two usb ports and how on the extreme how you have two usb ports you can set one usb port to be recording for your hard drive and you set the other one to go out to the ATEM out to your computer but you can also plug in two drives and in fact you can plug in a hub into one of them and plug in two usb drives and the system will see both drives and as one fills up it'll automatically switch over to the other one and at that point you can take out drive one replace it and then when drive two fills up it goes back to drive one so you can do that using both ports or you can do that just using a hub plugged into your um your ATEM so that's that basically gives you unlimited duration you just keep on adding more hard drives unlimited duration there so thank you for that question okay um what is the branded model of the sdi to hdmi converter you mentioned okay so and then there's some notes in here from gary about what i might have been talking about so this the hdmi to sdi is this one right here actually let me go for this close-up view and get that in so this is the blackmagic microconverter this is the bi-directional one gary was talking about this a little bit more yesterday and this is really designed to take sdi cameras and put them onto the hdmi system or vice versa but this is not this is more than you would need just to go hdmi to sdi there are cheaper blackmagic converters that do that where this question might have come up is yesterday i mentioned an sdi to usb converter that i'm using in my office that is from a company called innogeni and

i-n-o-g-e-n-n-i-n-o-g-e-n-i i think that's right innogeni or maybe these two ends in there but that hardware is specifically sdi to usb and so the way that i am streaming this feed to zoom because zoom needs a webcam is the one of the sdi outputs from my big ATEM that's which my this whole show that you're watching is being run on the big ATEM uh the 2me one of the sdi outputs from that is running from the ATEM in the rack all the way into my office and they're in my office it plugs into that innogeni which then gets converted to usb plugged into the mac and zoom sees that so that's how that works and that's probably what the question was yesterday the only hdmi to sdi converter that i mentioned was the blackmagic all right uh let's see here talk more about using the hyperdeck to extend the media pool to be triggered by playback and record actions of the ATEM we're actually going to cover that today so we'll be talking a bit about what the hyperdeck is how it works and how you can control playback of it so that we're going to cover today can you bring a stereo feed into the extreme iso and if so what is the workflow great question absolutely so both of the microphone inputs are stereo inputs in fact all most cameras i should say all cameras at least most cameras have stereo microphone inputs and so as long as you're feeding in a stereo microphone whether that's a dual mic setup in a dual array where you've got kind of a left and right so you hear the panning or you're just coming off of a mixing board you've got a live event and you have stereo sound for that that plugs into the mini ports here yes absolutely you can bring in stereo so again if you're doing stereo with two microphones or a stereo microphone that has a left and right channel then that will just plug into the camera come into the ATEM like anything else the atm will see it as stereo and off you go if you're doing something off of a mixing board again let's say a live music where you want that stereo separation for live music whoever's running the mixing board as long as they're sending you a stereo feed and that would probably be an xlr out that they would be feeding out you'd have some kind of converter box to go from xlr to mini to the 3.5 millimeter and you feed that in it'll stay stereo all the way through and you'll have stereo in here so absolutely stereo support are you going into setting up a streaming set with a fixed ip i didn't quite understand this question streaming set with a fixed ip so i am going to talk about live streaming using the web presenter um maybe you mean fixed ip of your like if you have a fixed ip but i don't it doesn't change whether you're fixed ip from your isp or you have a dhcp server whether you set the ATEM to be dhcp or you assign it a fixed ip that doesn't change anything about the streaming setup that ip address is how your hardware is found on the network but we're talking about going the other direction you're streaming from here out and as long as it is successfully on your network then you go in here and you set up an a destination to youtube or wherever you like um if you're if you're thinking maybe now that i say that maybe what you mean is you're streaming to a specific ip address because in the let me take pull up the settings here real quick let's switch over to the screen make sure i'm looking at the right atom yes i am um live stream okay so maybe what you mean is in here if you want to go to a custom platform that's not in here if that's what you meant then to do that you have to modify an xml file and i actually did a video on this a while ago on my youtube channel so if you just go to youtube you search photojoseph um search ATEM and restream dot io when i did that video the premise of the video is adding restream.io to the ATEM since then blackmagic has added support for restream.io natively so you no longer have to modify modify the xml to do that however that video will show you how to modify the xml and then you can obviously put whatever address you want in there so it's a manual process you have to go into the code a little bit but you can set the hyper set the ATEM to stream to any destination that you want gary's got something he wants to say i'm going to pull him back up here yes i will add to that

off my sound uh basically um since the web presenter hd came out um they've added to the code the ability to create a small xml file with just the information you need and to be able to import that directly the information for that is in the web presenter manual but that actually works on the ATEMs if you look on the ATEM menu for stream you'll have the ability to import an xml file for a particular streaming site that's a lot easier than editing that specific xml which is buried in a protected area of your computer so um you can basically create uh i think there's a sample in the manual um if not you can contact me and i'll i'll get you one uh but basically it's it looks the same it's the same uh text as in the xml but it's just the service section of it and you can import that directly into the atm or the web presenter i hope that makes it a little bit easier for everyone awesome okay thank you i did not know that it's funny because i actually saw in the web presenter set up the ability to load a file and i thought oh that's interesting i wonder exactly what that's for but that is and i hadn't looked into the manual for that so okay cool um what he's talking about let me show you that load option so this is the obviously the atm software again here we have our different platforms we can stream to but if you go up to the stream menu there is a load streaming settings and the way that i've i know the way it was originally designed the way that i've used it in the past is for loading settings for the um the street the stream what's it called the stream deck the thing where the gary's streaming too there are too many products i keep forgetting names of things um the bridge the streaming bridge thanks gary um when you set up a streaming bridge and we're going to talk about this in a moment here when you set up a streaming bridge you generate an xml file and that's how you would import that xml file so so that's how that works okay all right uh let's see here and that was it okay so that was the questions thank you very much for all those additional questions from yesterday all right let's get into i'm gonna try really hard to do the slides this time let's get into iso recording and b raw so this is so fun and so cool how well this works let me step back overarching concept of what we're doing and then we're going to do it so here's the idea during a live show you're live streaming you have the ability to record your live show to a hard drive to a little little ssd or whatever hard drive you plug in like this guy here if you have one of the iso models so this only applies to the iso model so that's the ATEM ATEM mini pro hm mini pro iso or the ATEM mini extreme iso i'm really wondering what word's going to get added next to this whole thing good grief these names are getting big all right so if you have a model that says iso on it then the benefit of that is that on this hard drive not only do you get the program which is of course what the audience saw you also get the isos and the isos iso is short for isolated stream it's the isolated individual video stream coming into the ATEM so if you had eight cameras plugged in you will have recordings of all eight of those cameras regardless of whether they're on air or not you also get an xml file that opens in davinci resolve that will have all of your switches so if you switch from a to b you need to cross dissolve from b to c all of that data is in there and the idea being that you can take this drive plug it in you know copy your files over and open it and resolve and go in and re-edit your show without having to start from scratch so imagine you know i've got this live show and you know let's we're doing a live show here everything's great and i go okay now we're going to go to camera b oops i went to c turn it go back to b okay well your live audience just saw that mistake right they got that but if you're going to upload the show later at a higher quality to youtube or whatever you can edit that mistake out so i'd go into resolve and i go where was that place i went to camera c instead oh there it is and you get rid of that switch or you switch to the right place or whatever it is if your timing is off you can go and re-edit the timing if you decide to change the whole thing you know oh i completely i did a whole thing on the overhead camera but i forgot to switch to the overhead i'm really good at that myself i'll sit there and talk to you for 10 minutes about something i'm doing here and every look up and realize i forgot to switch to that camera well the live audience suffers but when you upload that later you can change all of that so that's what the iso does now we add in the next level of this and that's the b raw support blackmagic raw from the pocket cinema camera so this only applies to the blackmagic pocket cinema cameras but you can enable recording of b-raw in the cameras so when you start recording on here it starts recording to this plus it triggers recording on the cameras and you now have the blackmagic raw files in 4k in the case of the 4k camera or in 6k in the case of this camera you then bring those files into resolve along with the project off of here everything automatically links up we're going to see all of this and you can then re-edit in 4k or even in 6k so your live show may have only been hd but you can re-upload a version of it later in 4k or even 6k or of course if you're just doing a 4k production but you got a 6k camera then that 6k camera gives you a lot of room to push into the shot if you want to do some reframing so super super powerful feature and capability again the whole iso part on its own works just with the iso you don't need the blackmagic cameras if you want to relink to the b raw files then you need the blackmagic cameras for that now to be fair you can manually do this if you have non-blackmagic cameras you can go to those manu those cameras and manually hit record on them and record internally to whatever format they record to or have an external recorder and capture whatever you want but you will not have the time code sync you will have to manually re-link those and manually set up that um the linking of those high resolution files to the ones that are in here it's possible but it's just not as easy as what i'm about to show you so with that said let's get started here all right let me fire up the ipad here and i'm going to switch to a multi-view and i actually want to show you something else that's kind of neat um that i neglected to show you yesterday so let's see here i'm going to hit play on actually before i even hit play on the ipad let me switch over to the side view so you can see the ipad here this is the you're physically looking at it i'm in keynote and you can see the keynote layout and presentation here and if we look at the multi-view you see on so let's see if i do this it's right there okay ignore the preview side but on the program so you can see the the uh ipad coming out and it's mirrored you're seeing the same thing okay now if i hit play on this keynote presentation remember yesterday i talked about when you play a movie or a photo out of the photos app on the ipad you get to see that full screen whereas when you're not viewing it you see the interface and it's cropped well now we're playing the slide deck you're seeing the slides in full screen but look at the actual ipad on the ipad i'm getting my current and next slide layout and i can even go in in keynote and i can change the layout of here to whatever i want but this allows me to see the current and the next slide while the audience is seeing that's there in the ipad view let me pull it up there the audience is seeing just the slide itself so that is a a really awesome feature to have and another really cool thing about the ipad for this that will work off of a laptop as well if you have a laptop set into here as a dual screen layout exact same thing will happen so i neglected to show that yesterday so i wanted to show that okay so back into this back to the extreme so i've got three cameras on here i've got there's camera one that's the 4k i've got camera two over here that's the 6k and then of course there's the ipad and you can see over um over on the right hand side there is a super source that i've set up um as well so i've got a bunch of stuff set up in here and then oh in the bottom left you'll see a it says photojoseph there's a little uh little lower third on there so we're going to incorporate that into this as well i do want to point out i'm going to take this opportunity to do this while the ATEM isos will record most things that happen it doesn't actually do absolutely everything so a supersource is one of the things that it will not capture you would have to rebuild that super source in post later it is not going to capture that super source for you unfortunately but it does do the vast majority of the switching that you need so uh all right what i'm going to do is start recording and do a couple of quick little camera switches and then we're going to pull the file out and pop into the computer so first things first is to plug the hard drive in so again just usb i've got this little samsung t5 drive these things are great for this they're tiny they weigh nothing they don't require external power they're great so recommend these little guys for that okay that's plugged in um the cameras are ready i can see yep i can see you can see the displays on both of the cameras i see they're obviously on excuse me uh going through my head making sure i don't have anything else to set up i set this all up last night so hopefully it's it's all going to go to plan all right i'm going to start it so i will start let's go to the multi-view so you're going to see the multi-view part of what you're going to get to see in the multiview so where am i looking part of what you'll get to see in the multi-view is the the build up on the preview that i'm gonna do oh yeah that was the one thing i wanted to shut up set up okay so right now you're seeing the same image in preview and program if i switch to camera two you see the same thing there and if you've only ever worked with the ATEM this way you might be thinking i don't understand what the whole point of the preview thing is in there well in software i can go in so let's do this i have a whole bunch of new presets set up um there we go okay so in software this is the software for the ATEM mini on the right-hand side you're seeing the multi-view out you'll notice here if i i'm going to hit the button on the hardware i'm going to go to camera 2 and you see on the left-hand side there is both a program and a preview and they are both switching simultaneously right what i can do though is i can load a separate preview so i'm going to hit the preview button here and you see it loads up a separate preview now i've got a separate window over here so we're seeing this camera in the preview and this camera in the program this would allow me to then build the preview the whole idea here is that you build the preview i go all right i want this shot i want this lower third i want this bug i want this graphic you build everything and then you bring it to air that's how the preview works now if you're self producing if you're self switching you're not going to use preview because you would never go oh hold on audience while i set this up and then switch over to you're not going to do that so the kind of default position of the hardware is to just do that that immediate switch you can do the previous setup in software but you can do preview switching on the hardware itself you just have to change the setting so this is something that i had meant to show you yesterday and i forgot to so i'm going to show this to you now and i actually need this setup for this for the thing i'm about to do so to do this let's go back to the mac here we go into the here it is the ATEM setup app and this is the this app controls all the hardware it sees on the network so i've got my so just to run through and see everything that's in here um i have an old ATEM mini that's in the rack the tangling a couple things i got this ATEM mini extreme i so that's the one that's on my desk the ATEM mini pro iso in my office the three streaming bridges so we'll talk about those later and then the big ATEM the 2me that's everything that's on my network right now so let me go back to the one that i want to edit uh here it is and this button right here will launch this software the atm software control but this button will open up some settings there's not a whole lot in here but this is where you'll find the ip address that your your ATEM is using so if it's self-assigned this is where it's going to show up and down here you have a few options under panel this is the main one that i want to show you this switching mode by default it's set to cut bus and cut bus means that when i hit a button here it is going to immediately cut to that that input to that bus if i set it to program preview now what happens let me save this and i'll go back to uh let's see here i'm going to go to this layout yep that's the layout now if you look at these buttons though i push camera two so we got in the program in the preview both the same thing now i push button two on here button two has gone green green meaning it's in preview mode red is on air and now we're seeing the preview and the on-air cameras in the preview and the on-air part of the multi-view now to do a cut between them i hit the cut button and it cuts between them or i can you see they swap places so i can cut back and forth so if i'm cutting back and forth between two camera angles it's literally just one button in this mode if i wanted to do a transition i would set up a transition let's do a simple dissolve make it a half a second long and i hit auto and it does that transition and so that is the power of the preview program mode in hardware itself so now that that's enabled now i'm going to do my little show demo okay so um we're going to go to this view now we're going to start in this view i'm going to leave it here to start it's all planned out i have to remember what i planned and we'll go for uh starting with this one camera it doesn't really matter but we're gonna start with this camera okay so we're set i'm going to go ahead and hit record there's a record button on the ATEM or i can do it in software but i'll hit the record button on the ATEM that lights up red it's recording these cameras are both also recording as well and now i'm going to start with just a simple cut so i'll cut back and forth between these two so we've got um camera one camera two camera one camera i don't know which one i'm looking at anymore so there's my cuts there set that up okay so i got a couple cuts now let's do a simple transition so i've got a mix i'll do a one and a half second long mix and i'll do that nice slow dissolve between them okay that's set up now i want to bring in a slide so i'm alive on air with this camera live on air and now i want to bring in my slides so i'm going to hit number three to bring up slides as a preview and now let's do a wipe we'll do a diagonal wipe on here and i'll hit that button and it does the auto wipe into that okay so now i'm back to let's see here i want to take this camera camera four camera one sorry and i'm going to bring that to the preview and now i'm going to switch over to the software view on the left so that is there we go and i'm going to build a lower third on here so to do this i'm going to use the downstream key so i'm going to hit tie and what tie does is it doesn't bring it on air immediately it ties it to the next transition so that when i do the transition as you can see it being built on the preview that's going to come over so that is set up that's ready to go um now all i have to do is do the same transition go back to this view same transition i did before i'll do a different wipe on here i'll hit auto and it's going to auto wipe over there and i come up with that lower third okay so there's there's my show right got it all set let's stop recording stop recording there we go and um and that's it so now we can start loading up the files so let's take let's go back to this view i'm going to pull this up by the way there's no eject on here you just pull it off here's a really cool thing about this if you yank this while it's recording to it it will actually close the file safely so you will even if this accidentally gets yanked out you don't lose your entire show i don't know how they do that but that's magic okay i'm plugging the usb into plug this into my computer and let's bring up the mac and i should have folders set up for this okay there's my folder let's get the hard drive the there it is and uh there we go atm webinar three that's what i just did so i'm going to copy that over while that is copying i am going to grab the sd cards out of these other cameras so pull this out of here and pull this one out of here and this is the part of the demo where i go i really hope i did everything right like i said set it all up last night this should totally work i'm going to show you too the cards that i'm using so because i'm recording to raw that means there's a lot of data being generated very very quickly um i'm using these cards from a company called pro grade the you can get this the right angle so you can actually see there we go actually hold on let me switch how i hold these there we go these are pro grade cards these are rated v 90 so these are the really fast cards that will that will support the raw i'm trying to rotate these there we go they'll support the raw uh data flow so i highly recommend that and then for the reader i'm also using a pro grade reader this one is a dual sd card reader so you can i can do both at once it is usbc and it is more than just being a dual reader it is very fast very robust and this will give you the kind of performance that you would expect from the rest of your system and a lot of people make the mistake of of uh you know using all these great cameras with high resolution image and these fast cards and then they go and they plug it into the sd card reader on their laptop or they just use some cheap sd card reader from you know that they've got it by mark at walmart or something and it's it's not the same the performance is just not going to be there so definitely invest in a good reader if you are going to invest in all the rest of this gear all right uh so with that said i'm going to pop these two cards in and let's go back to the computer and there's the first there's camera

that's a problem didn't record did i did i neglect to where's my recording

oh i had it turned on row root row something happened something went

wrong gary what happened why did it break

i actually was uh busy looking at something else so i don't know didn't catch what you were actually doing so i don't know if i if we missed any steps that's terrible i didn't i'm okay we're just gonna do this again i don't know why that happened um in a real world scenario you would obviously take the time to go to the cameras and make sure that they were recording um which i clearly didn't do so all right we're just gonna bring him through the whole thing again man that's a bummer it's totally worked all right um sorry about that guys okay back to this let's just redo that so i got the cards back in uh let's go back to the mac and eject those two cards what a bummer man never do live shows with children animals or technology they're all just begging for disaster all right so that's both the cards out let's pop these out what i'm going to do is reformat each card in the camera to make sure it's totally super ready to go and this is already set that's fine so put that there what a bummer sorry about that guys and that makes for a bummer demo doesn't it all right well now you get to see how this process works pop this in and

see it no card fascinating

okay there it is card format sd card format card format hold this button for three seconds and it formats that card okay so there's that one and now let's do the other one here i don't know if you can even see this or not i'm trying not to get in the way of the shot too much okay format the card format format format

and good to go okay ready to use cards ready to use exit that card is ready to use exit that and let's just see i'm just going to go ahead and hit record now again that says this recording oh that one's not oh it's interesting it's got a little exclamation point on it why is that now it's recording

this one did okay hold on troubleshooting in real time that is super fun guys all right let me turn that off

everything is set i don't know why record again now it's recording and now it's recording very strange i don't have any idea why it didn't work the previous time um the demo gods were not happy today but everything is recording now so i'm just i'm not going to stop i'm just going to let it go and let's do the thing so let's set this up again we go to the mac and multiview that's the one that i want and oh actually we're going to go for the overhead and the multi-view there's the one okay so we are going to switch from camera one to two there's our cuts from camera one to two so there's that okay it's cutting cutting cutting yeah i want to do a dissolve i'll set it to a simple cross dissolve and do that and we see that cross dissolve in there so that's all good and then i'm gonna load up the slides into the preview we will do a wipe into that slide so there's that transition and then i'm going to go into the software and and i could do this in the hardware as well actually no i can't i can't do a tie in the hardware so i need the software for this set up that lower third that lower third by the way here in the media pool that's set up as that's i clicked on tie so that's ready to go and now i go back over to the hardware and let's go for a we'll do something else um just do a wipe i guess just do a wipe and affect that and there's the wipe and there it is okay that time we got it stop recording across all your fingers and all your toes ladies and gentlemen hope i got this right this time and good okay so now we yank this pop this on here start this whole process over again back to the mac and go to that so we'll just delete that previous one so don't get them confused and to the number four there we go copy over number four okay while that's copying i'm gonna grab the sd cards

and there's number one

and there's number two it doesn't matter which one's kind of cool thing about the the cameras they will name the card with the first number in the name being the camera number so you know which is camera one camera two kind of cool uh all right let me eject this

again our super duper prograde reader memory card one and two and back to the mac and there it is okay so there's our second file uh yeah right so we did the test yes it's the second one i want the second one and i guess a two test so i'm gonna take the third one there all right so all of those are there now with these copied over um you can see by the way these file sizes on these things these are pretty big right that was just the short duration there was five and a half gigs on the 6k camera and two little over two gigs on the 4k camera so these are these are going to be big files and i think i think i have this compression set to 12 to 1 the most compressed b roth so when you're shooting raw you're going to get some big files you're going to need some big cards for sure okay and that said let's go back here now let me show you what's in these folders this is what's created so this again is what came off of the ATEM itself if i open this up the first thing there is the actual um the actual resolve file so that's what we're going to open up in davinci resolve here i guess this must be

two i'm not sure why there's two in here so there's the one that i just did is this the previous one oh that's from when i hit hit record and then stopped again very quickly so it recorded both of those into there so there's there's my program so these are both program files that was from the first very quick test and then this is the second one so this is the actual program file we're dealing with so from here we see everything that happened right all the switches that are in here all the cross dissolves et cetera et cetera and then there's the final uh build up and then the final wipe over okay so that's the program file this is what the audience saw then you have audio source files this records a dedicated audio file for each input you do not need all of these necessarily and you're going to have your audio on the video file as well if the audio is coming through the camera it's just that it's giving you these separate audio files anything you don't need you can just throw away but they're there just in case you need them and notice that it did record an audio track and you'll see it did a video track as well for every single input so if i go now to the video iso files and we see in here there's all the different camera inputs oh yeah see there's the camera one and camera two a camera one take one and take two because i stopped and started again so quickly that's why we're seeing multiples uh but we're seeing one for each but even though you know some of these are just black right it's just blank you'll notice the blank ones the black ones are very small you can see they're they're very small files in here because it is a variable bitrate it's solid black so it is a small file but it does record everything the whole time here's camera one just the camera one input so we scrub through here there's the entire camera one feed we go to you know here the entire camera two feed the whole whole feed is there so why does it record the black files i get this question a lot why is it doing that because it is simply recording what's on that channel it doesn't know if you intend to add something to that channel later so i could just plug in a camera in the middle of a show you wouldn't want it to go oh now i have to start recording or um or if the camera blanks out for a second it stops recording you don't want that so it just records everything you can plug in a camera live you can hot plug a camera in in the middle of a show and it will just pick up and your black file will suddenly have picture on it so that's why that works that way you've just got all the files in there so and again if you don't need it just throw it away but because they're variable bitrate if they're just solid black they take up very little space okay so back to this now i've got all of these files and i got all my isos and then here's those two raws i can load the raws in two different ways i can either manually either open up the project file without the raws and then add them in and that's really easy and i'll show you how to do that or what i can also do is just create a folder call it b-raw and i'm going to put this in here and then take these and put them into that bureau folder and davinci will resolve will actually just find them which is kind of cool all right i'm just going to double click on this a time webinar and let that open up into the resolve

i'm using the full studio version here if you don't need the full studio version you can do this with the free version as well and loading the atm webinar and there it is okay so oh yeah see here's the first one when i was testing it and then there's the gap and then here's the second one so here's the real show so as i scrub through here okay here's my first camera angle switches you can see here i'll play through there's our cut from camera one to two so there's those cuts in there and if i wanted to make any change in there i can just go in and start cutting it oh i cut too soon i want to change the angle whatever i want to do in there here's the transition a little dissolve in there um and so the wipe the transition as a wipe didn't come through as a wipe it comes through as a simple dissolve so that's something you go in and manually set if you really wanted that wipe in there and then let's go to the end here where i built up to the graphic that and there's the graphic in there and so you can see here on the timeline there's that photojoseph graphic that i had that lower third so all of that is in there all right so now what about the raw we'll look up here in the in the media pool and you'll see there's a folder called blackmagic raw notice that i didn't call the folder blackmagic raw i just labeled it b-raw it found it and goes okay these are your blackmagic raw files also notice in here that on that i have a folder called iso and inside of that every iso is set up in a folder that matches the name of the input so this input is this folder is called bmpcc 4k this one's called bmpcc 6k and this one down here is called ipad if we look back at the switching software and i go into my settings in here you'll um go to where we labels you'll see that those are the labels that i had actually named these inputs so i named them bmpcc 4k and 6k in the software so by labeling it that way in the ATEM software when we go into resolve they're all named that way already so just really really clean integration of the way i configure the hardware and how that resolve file gets generated i love that it's a really nice really nice attention to detail okay so i've got the b raw files in there right they automatically showed up if they if i hadn't moved them in then it wouldn't have found them or maybe i just copied them over later then to add them in all i would have to do is the software would create go back to this level it would create this blackmagic raw folder anyway and when you opened it it would just be empty and so i would simply drag and drop the files into there that's literally all i have to do to load them and now to get the b-raw up let's go to a clip where we can tell so here's here's video of me right we know that this is the the one that we were seeing in camera because it's got the color on it this is this is um has a final look on it up here zoom into this a bit tiny little button but right here i think the thing will pop up there we go let me scroll over and there it is you see this button that says show camera originals when i click that it switches over to show me the raw and now just visually looking at it i can tell it's raw because it's dimmer it doesn't have a lut applied this is a log file basically and there is the final thing that was actually streamed but there is the uh the letted file so that is how you do that super super easy to do and at this point now i could go in and manually color grade these obviously re-edit however i want push into a file if i want to whatever you want super super slick so minus the kerfuffle in the beginning there um that came out great that worked out great so let's go to questions see if there's any that we've got and then i will proceed with the next parts of the of the plan today so mr gary you're up my friend do we have any questions right now okay yes several questions so is b raw more efficient than other format types and which file types are best to use at which times when using this system and equipment i know you can't choose anything other than b-raw on the camera for recording but for doing the editing and stuff maybe that would be the question sure okay so like you said you when you're doing this system the only recording be raw you can't tell the camera to record to any other format it's just b-raw you do have the choice of of the compression level of b-raw so you can go for the i think three-to-one i think is the lowest compression and 12-1 at the most i think that's right so you can choose that but that's it if you are um so again in the coming out of the atm you don't have any choice of what gets created it's just that mp4 file at 1080p resolution excuse me so there's not really any other choice in there working with the b-raw you have the added capable you have the dynamic range of that you've got a broader dynamic range you've got that raw fo that log file so you can color grade it however you want to so you can you know if you blew out a shot it was overexposed odds are you'll be able to recover it if it wasn't too overexposed so you have a lot of flexibility in working with raw if you remove the blackmagic cameras from the system and you're just using other cameras and you're going to record either internally or to an external recorder you could be recording to you know mp4 to hebc to prores at that situation at that sense you're taking advantage of what those codecs have to offer just like any other shooting situation so you know hevc is highly compressed but very high quality smaller file allows you to do things like shooting in hdr natively and hlg so you could do a camera where it's recording hlg hybrid log gamma hdr in camera and then you're doing the switching but of course you'd have to rematch those manually later um if you were shooting to prores raw you wanted to do prores raw you have some recorders that record prores raw attached to your camera you capture prores raw exact same thing you just have to do it manually now you can within blackmagic i don't believe blackmagic supports uh i'm sorry i don't believe that davinci resolve supports prores raw that's a final cut thing you can take your resolve project and move it over to final cut there will be a little bit of cleanup stuff that you have to do especially when it comes to relinking to the originals there's not this really slick auto re-link to the originals format but this timeline that you just saw here i can export this out and bring it over to uh to final cut that is possible and i'm i'm sure that you can do this with premiere as well i'm not a premier editor so i i'm not going to go hang out hard on that but i'm almost positive that you can but you absolutely can do it with with uh with final cut in fact i did a video on this there's another one on my channel if you search on youtube for photojoseph and then um iso do ATEM mini iso atimidi pro iso and i did this whole thing where i shot i brought in a musician into the studio here it's actually a really cool project brought a musician into the studio she played a song i did a whole four camera shoot i had one on a on an arm i had like all this stuff set up and so you see a whole behind the scenes and then i take that project into resolve i convert it over to final cut and then i do a re-edit or whatever in final cut uh really slick it was kind of a fun project encourage you to watch that one that was super cool but then you'll see how that moves over to final cut if that's what you want um or you know edit resolve because it's awesome resolve rocks i really need to learn the color tools more and resolve okay um anything else gary

okay so did the cards um when you had them in the camera and formatting did the cards show space uh used or allocated on the drive in some way they they show how much space is available how much recording time you will get given whatever compression setting you have so if i set it to the lowest compression setting it would probably say like five minutes with the higher compression setting it's i don't know whatever it was like 20 minutes or something recording time so but it does tell you how much recording time is left on the card

there was a question about the iso recording on the audio and i think you might have answered it which audio will be recorded on the iso video and it's more important to know that the program audio is always attached to the video recordings which is why we provide the separate wav files for the separate uh audio files okay great i'm glad you pointed that out i i don't think i realized that so perfect great thank you

you're muted uh one of the uh couple of people have asked maybe at the end we can talk about this again too post links of the non-blackmagic products that you mentioned and maybe possibly email them to registered users at the end or have some method that they can look up uh some of these other products you were talking about okay um yeah what i'll do is because i'm gonna be uploading this to my youtube channel i will record i will have a list of the links there of the products and i can then when i make that i can share that with you and you can send that out to to everybody um yeah that's a good idea okay cool i can do that i have to remember gary remind me if i forget but i will i can definitely do that yeah we'll do i think we can continue on right now okay great all right so next up is look i actually got my slides ready next up is the hyperdeck both for recording and for playback so let's talk about actually i should have pulled up a web page let me pull up over and show you what the hyperdex lineup looks like i have previous edition of the hyperdex installed here and i'm going to show that to you in just a moment there are some new generations of them i'm not super intimately familiar with all the new features in the new ones but i will show you the lineup here so this is the blackmagic website go to capture and playback and uh oh sorry not capturing playback my wrong um video i don't want to multiview routing streaming coding nope we'll do it live where's this where are they are they do you just record just recording there we go duplication disk recording there's i think there we go hyperdeck studio hd mini the hyperdeck studio hd plus which is 4k i'm gonna look gary give gary the side eye right now and ask why this is not just called the hyperdeck studio 4k but because this one does do full 4k you see here it goes up to 2160p 30 so that's 4k 30 frames per second and this is what i have the previous edition of these and these are these little guys right here and then there's these bigger ones that will record to ssg so the ones that i have we're working with sd cards the little baby sd cards the bigger ones regard to ssd and you can see that they have dual slots so you get as well both of these have dual slots so you get unlimited recording just it will fall over to the previous uh to the next disk and then you can swap out the old one and then there's the big old 8k extreme version which is crazy awesome um oh this duplicator this is really neat if you're doing like a live event you want to hand out copies of the live event afterward this thing will rip out a bunch of copies at once pretty slick anyway but we're talking about these little guys here all right um i oh i set up a new camera angle but i didn't set up a shortcut here so let me switch over to this give me a moment i want to show you my my rack with the deck in it so give me a second here switch over i'll just show you what i'm doing here i'm going to switch over to my big ATEM and why are you asking from that and it is the rack camera so i'm going to enable that there we go so there's that's my rack you can see the the at the very top just out of view that's the actual ATEM 2me underneath that the two big screens are the dual view monitor so that's showing me the two uh multi-views that are come out of the 2me that the 2 in 2me means that it has two full two different streaming full two different layouts mix effects layouts and that's the what you're seeing on the left and right there and then underneath that you see six hyper decks you'll notice the two on the bottom left the bottom left and bottom middle are both recording those are recording this actual show i'm recording one to h264 and the other to prores and i'm doing that so that i can re-edit the show later the only reason i'm doing both is because the progress file is going to be massive and if there's no quality difference then i'll just use the h264 and i already compared yesterday the h264 is perfectly fine for what i'm doing but i just hit record on both today anyway because i did yesterday but um but that's what i'm doing so each one of those decks is recording the program and in fact if you look at if you look really closely at the actually i can just walk over there and point it to you if you look closely here you can see that is the problem look there's my hand that's a little meta so that's the program coming into these two the other ones here are currently pointing at random things and then number six is the one we're going to be working with for playback stuff but those bottom two there and so let me go back over here and i want to show you something else in software related to these so if i go into my ATEM software control you'll notice up here these this is hyper deck 1 hyper deck 2. so these are output 1 output 2 output 3. this is the ATEM 2m the big ATEM right so somewhere in the settings i remember where it was somewhere in the settings in here i had no idea where it doesn't matter i was able to rename these output menus to hyper to whatever i want so i named them hyperdeck one through six so this big ATEM has six outputs that are remappable i can send anything i want out to each of those six and these are auxiliary outputs separate from the program out and the multi-view out so i can like this camera this ATEM has two hdmi outs that i can set to anything uh and that's it the 2me has six auxiliary outputs plus additional program and multi-view out so it's got a ton of outputs so i've got the output from each one of those six going into one of these six hyperdex so then let's go back over to the software view i can choose like hyperdeck one i can say have it show me camera a or camera b or camera c so in a normal shooting environment for me hyper deck 1 is recording camera a high predict 2 is recording camera b and hyper deck 3 is recording camera c hybrid x4 is recording camera d and so on but right now hyper deck 4 is recording the the the me1 that's the mix effects one that's what i'm using for the show the program so that's what's being recorded there and hyper deck 5 is recording the exact same thing within the hyperdex i've set them to be different settings and then hyperdex 6 is not receiving anything right now because i'm setting that up for playback so that's your kind of basic setup of that you've got this recorder that you can feed in a signal from anywhere these have um actually probably have the back illustration on here pull up a tech view of this you can take a look at what's on the back of these so here we go let's go back to this view so this is again this is the new one on here mine looks a little bit different than this but basically you've got you've got sdi outputs oh this is the let's go to the hd plus because it's representative of what i have there we go so this has dual sdi outputs which is going to be very important for the playback portion of this we'll get to in a moment and then it has an sdi input so the input from the ATEM is going into sdim and then has a loop out which is really really handy so if you you are effectively not giving up that output if if you want to pull the output from the atm into the hyperdeck it will then loop back out and go off to somewhere else if you want a feed of that somewhere else you've got that as well obviously it's going to be the same feed but you've got that loop out feed there which is pretty slick um time code support and so on all kinds of deck control and other funny things in here the ethernet port and then there is an hdmi output now this new one actually has hdmi input mine does not have the hdmi input but it does have hdmi out so you've got multiple inputs and outputs on here and so that's that's all you know that's great the dual sdi out this is the key though so yesterday i talked about uh it's the key no pun intended yesterday i talked about having the key in the fill having an output where you have your video and then you have a a alpha channel black and white grayscale alpha channel that represents the mask so if you think about photoshop you've got a transparent thing on photoshop if you look at the mask where it's transparent it's black where it's opaque it's white and any shade of gray is a transition so if you've got something with a drop shadow and you look at the mask in photoshop you'd see that transition exact same idea here you have a video file that has the picture the video whatever it is you want on screen and then you have a secondary part of that file that is the alpha channel now the way that you create these files so now we're obviously talking about playback recording there's not much else to say you know you hit it and you hit record you choose a format off you go that's it for playback though when you want to playback a video with the alpha channel you render out of whatever graphics package you're using a prores four four four four five so there's four fours that fourth four is the alpha channel so you know you hear about your codec your video codec it's oh it's four two zero it's four two two those are quality seven we're not gonna go to each one of those but those are essentially quality settings the highest one is four four four and then the fourth four is that alpha channel so if you're using after effects or apple motion or whatever keynote and you make a animation against transparency and you render it out to prores 444 you get that prores file that has the alpha channel the hyperdeck will immediately recognize that and it will split out the output so it'll take the video portion and put it out the first sdi output and take the alpha channel and put it out the second one so that's the concept of how it works now here's what i'm going to do i've got a video file already loaded up in the hyperdeck so let me give you a moment here while i set this up um okay we if we go to go back to this view so here is the hyperdeck control now we are now looking at my big ATEM this is we're looking at the 2m we're not looking at the extreme because this is you know it's obviously configured on the big ATEM if i go into these settings in here there's a hyperdeck option and you'll see in here that i punch in the ip address of the hyperdex and so i've got hyperdex the way i've numbered mine is you know 111 is hyperdeck 1 12 or 2 at the end is hyperdeck 2 and so on you can only control four of them even though you have six outputs it's not like the six outputs are you know specifically meant for hyperdex but you can only control four hyperdex at once you can go in here and change it at any time but you can control four of them at once so i'm controlling the first two and the last two right now so the last one though is the one i care about so hyperdeck four is what's labeled here's hyper four is actually hybrid x6 in my system so um so that's set up so ip address one one six all right so now we go over to the settings here look at the hyper deck and you can see that hypertext one and two aren't doing anything right now and then remember these are actually numbers five and six so number five is actively recording that's that one that was recorded into prores so i don't want to touch that and then over here this one is actively playing so this is my hybridic number six that is actively playing what is it playing well i'm going to go back gary don't worry about audio i'm not going to bring you on but um this is the multiview of me and gary notice the background there there's a little wavy blue thing that is video that is playing from that hyper deck just straight video not with an alpha channel just straight video playing from the hyperdeck so if i go back to this view if i wanted to show you just that video i'll actually have a preset set up for this find the right button that i did and here we go this is the video output the on the left you're seeing the video on the right you're saying the alpha because this isn't a four four four four file we're only getting there's no alpha channel so the hyper deck is just playing both out over the same one but i have a video graphic load uploaded up here that has the alpha channel so to play it let's go back to this i'm going to zoom into this again for you let me open this up the little thing and it shows me the files on the hyperdeck so background one is the blue one you're seeing background two is a blue version of that and then ridiculous text is my graphic i'm going to show you you can this is kind of a really really cool functionality of the hyperdex you notice that they have an ethernet port right so they're on my network i can access the hyperdex over ftp which means that when i record my shows or record a a video that i'm doing to the hyperdex and this is how i do my all my youtube shows that i record right here everything is recorded not in camera but in the hyperdex i can then copy those files from the hyperdex across the network to my computer so i don't have to pop the ssd cards out now the hypertext used to be only 100 megabit they got a magical software update a while ago that upgraded them to gigabit so i get gigabit which is still slower than using you know an sd card reader but it's faster

depending on how much data i have to transfer sometimes it's faster for me to just copy the files over the network because i can start copying them all at once i can open up i use transmit as a an ftp client but you know whatever you want as an ftp client i have presets set up so that um i open up transmit on my system i just select all six hybrids or however many i'm using double click them they all open up and i just drag the files over to copy him super quick and easy now here's a neat little thing that i am about to set up in the studio so now we're getting a little this is what happens around here there's always something better you can do so i told you that the the hyperdex recently got upgraded to gigabit how they did that i have no idea like anyway so they're all gigabit now but the problem is that i'm on a gigabit network in here so that means that while i can transfer maximum speed from one hyper deck if i start copying from both of them at the same time well i've only got a gigabit of bandwidth in the entire network so that's not going to help me at all so what i've purchased is a small 10 gig switch it's actually so it's only it's 350 bucks this is not that bad it's a little netgear switch it has eight poe plus and oh by the way those hyper decks are all powered over poe so power over ethernet so there's no power cable running into them they're all getting their power from the ethernet right now they are and this will continue so this new switch eight poe plus one gig switch uh ports on them then there's one just one one 10 gigabit port on that switch so what will happen is all six of the hyper decks are going to get plugged into those six of those eight ports on there okay and then from the 10 gig i run a 10 gig cat 7 cable because regular cat5 cat6e is only one gig so a cat 7 cable will run directly from that switch to the back of my mac pro the mac pro has two uh two 10 gigabit ethernet ports built into it love the mac pro two 10 gig ports built in one of them is plugged into my regular one gig network just for internet and file transfer the second one will get plugged into that deck directly so it'll be a direct connection so i'll have a 10 gigabit connection to that switch which means i can hit copy on all six of those decks at once one gig each and file transfer speed i've still got four gigs of bandwidth to spare and i'll start copying those files over the network much faster super cool i'm really excited about this i just kind of went through all the details and figured out what i needed last week and the hardware will be here next week so i'm really excited about that so anyway so you know into the rabbit hole a little bit but that's how that works anyway so i can access those files over the network sweet i can copy files to the hyperdeck over the network so the graphics that you're seeing here i didn't pop out the card and put them in my machine and copy them to them i just copy them via ftp directly to the deck so that's really cool that we can do that um however there's an oddity in that you and gary if you know a solution to this by all means let me know but the ATEM doesn't refresh read what's on the card on a regular basis the only way that i know of to force it to refresh and read what's on the card is to pop the card out and pop it back in so it just means pop out pop back in gary's nodding yes so i guess there's no work around for that so you do have to pop it out and pop it back in but that's it just click click and that's it and then the ATEM will refresh what's on there and see the content so all that said now we've got this content on here so i'm going to go ahead and select the ridiculous text and um and that's playing now and now i'm going to bring up the uh the split here it is and so there we see on the left the video and it's rendered against black and then on the right the alpha channel so that is what would allow me to bring that up over my graphic so now um let's see here so that's now playing okay i'm going to where is that uh i've already set this up and i don't remember where i put it let's see here i'm looking at my computer on here there we go is it let me just look at my settings i don't remember i honestly remember where i put it um it's not okay we're gonna bring on air oops that's not it oh right okay so i need to set here we go so i'm going to set i forgot now now i'm remembering i undid everything so that i could show you how to set it up aha that's how this was see there's a method to my madness all right back to this so we currently have that playing let's just double check that output is playing from the oh sorry media player it's playing right there the ridiculous text if i load up my preset to show that we see it okay so that's all good now i'm gonna go i'm gonna bring it up as a upstream key so i'm gonna go to my upstream key there's upstream key it's going to be a luma key this is really important it's a luma key and somebody asked yesterday about the difference between the types of keys this is where the luma key comes in the fill source is going to be the hyperdex 6 video the key source is going to be the hyperdex6 alpha where to go hyperdex6 alpha there it is so hyperdex video and alpha those are the two they're coming in and now i bring it on air and there she is on the bottom so now we're seeing that loaded up on there if i you know just got this pre-multiply if i turn that off you see the black edges around it it's very important difference here what pre-multiplied means super important let me actually turn it back on i'll leave that going there what pre-multiplied means is that the rendered video so this case that whirly swilly weird graphic thing is rendered out to black everything that has transparency is rendered effectively with black behind it and so if we looked at it's kind of hard to tell from this video but if you look at just the video itself then the edges would look kind of funny and if i turn off premultiply key then you see that rendered out to the edge in there this is what gives you the cleanest transition to true transparency that rendering out to black then gets built into the mask as well and you have this beautiful soft transition and you can see as i turn the pre-multiply back on these very so i need something white to hold on behind here um you get these very smooth clean uh transitions or fades or drop shadows or whatever you want there we go let's hold this right behind there you go so you see there you get this really nice transparency as it fades off to that now this is not um this is not looping properly because i don't i barely know how to use motion the fact that i can figure out how to do this is kind of remarkable i'm not a martian graphics guy i couldn't figure out how to make it loop seamlessly but obviously you would make it so that it'll loop seamlessly okay so that's how that playback works now now let's talk about let me go and turn that off now let's talk about how you would incorporate this into a show because you can trigger which video file gets played in a macro so i can build a macro that says play video file what was called what did i call this thing um ridiculous text yeah it's called ridiculous text so i can build a macro that plays that track and i can build another macro that plays the other background color so this is really neat so here's what we're going to do let's go back to the mac and open up the macros command shift m to open up the macros let's bring this over here nice and big so you can see and find a blank one all right running out of some okay um i'm going to actually just clear up these are a bunch of things that i imported and i need to get rid of that i'm not using so just delete a couple of these all right let's put this right here so i'm going to add a new one and i'm going to say load let's go say play blue background animation perfect okay play blue background animation copy that hit record now i go over here and i select background one which is my blue one and remember when you're doing a

that i think i just switched cameras and i'm recording on there so that camera switch just got recorded darn it i'm gonna redo that i'm gonna explain it and then i'm gonna redo it without doing the switch um let me just stop this see it's very meta when you have all these things tight intertide um remember yesterday i'm talking about macros i told you that you have to do everything that you want it to do so in this case i not only select that video track i also have to hit play i also have to set the looping format i want it to loop or not loop i have to set all of that otherwise it's just going to do whatever was previously set so i want this to loop and my animated backgrounds the blue and green backgrounds are perfect looping there are seamless loops so um so i do want those to loop okay so let's go back to this i'm going to re-record and not insert a camera switch on top of it uh okay so there we go hit record so i select the right background so let's actively select it i'm going to make sure this is set to looping and i hit play so those three things in there are all i need i hit stop now i'm going to go to this one and i'm going to do another one and we're going to say play green background animation record and now i do the same thing for the second one select that one set it to loop hit play okay that's everything that i need and stop so now i've got two buttons here play blue and play green now let me switch over to uh let's see here i'll switch over to gary and me and you can see it's actively playing the green now i'm gonna go on the macro palette to the run page and i'll click the blue button there's the blue one and i click the play green button and there's the green one and if we look at the side by side you'll see play the blue play the green and it is instantly cueing up that right video and playing that back so that's where you get this really cool flexibility of having a hyper deck for playback and you can load up whatever files you want on there they could be you know opening animation graphics they could be the background graphics like i've got a lower third whatever and you can cue up which one's played back through the macros so that's where that becomes really really powerful to do and you can do this with the ATEM mini extreme as well or any of them you can do this but remember it will take two of your inputs so if you're going to be using a hyperdeck you really want to have the ATEM mini extreme so you get all eight inputs because two of them are being given up for that assuming that you want the transparency if you don't care about transparency it's just for playing videos without transparency then you just need one input like any camera so that is everything that i wanted to show you in there i love it having the hyperdex is super super awesome and powerful gives you a lot of different things you can do with it all right so that let's go and see if there's any questions go ahead and bring up gary me back i'm going to load up my blue background again because i like that one better there we go there's my blue background gary do we have any questions yeah since we're on the topic uh can you tell us how you encoded the graphics uh especially with the alpha channel sure so the graphic with the alpha channel is as i was saying earlier prores 444 it's the only way it has to have that alpha channel in there so that's your your it has to be a four four four four format um i do prores i'm not sure if there's other codecs that are supported but it has to be four four four four and so i did that in apple's motion and i just went to the export um you know it's built against transparency to start by default so i just went to export movie file um i set up the the size and the resolution in advance so when i built the canvas 1920x1080 2398 and that by the way is really important um less important for the ATEM extreme the the ATEM mini lineup because each input has a scalar it's still you really want to create your graphics at the exact right resolution and frame rate but on my a time the 2me i have to have the exact right resolution and frame rate so i had to make that video 1920x1080 at 23.976 frames per second critical or it won't play back so but yeah 444 is how you play that out

yes i um i'm old style anyway and um keeping everything the same frame rate and resolution that you're working with is always the best because uh there's there'll be issues somewhere somehow that get in the way um another question can you do the same graphics overlay with the new hyperdexo hd mini and the answer is actually the all new all the new products the hyperdeck products that just came out have the same capability of the prores 444 files does it i thought i saw i'm looking back at the schematics there's only one sdi oh there's an sdi and an hdmi output so is that how you would do the key in the fill

you're muted

gary's talking we can't hear him gary

can't hear you we can't hear you can't hear you buddy i'm sorry sorry i have to hit two buttons at once i should have worked that out with my stream deck so the new the new small one doesn't have sdi's out i don't have it in front of me right now there's one sdi out and one hdmi out

so maybe i'll check that yeah maybe you can use the instead of the ones with the two sdi should yeah yeah the ones with 2 sdi absolutely will do it um yeah i'm wondering maybe if you can use the sdi and the hdmi out as a key nfl i i don't know i i know you can do that actually you can use the hdmi as the primary option and you can use the sdi as the key on on all of them that have the two sdis i mean that would be an option for not having to convert one of the of the outputs um but i'll have to check on and get back to you because i honestly don't know at the moment i'd have to just check

and i'll try to do that actually before the session's over just to maybe follow up at the end so we don't get caught there

okay um did you go over the list of formats supported by the hyperdex i did not so i'm going to do this off top of my head there's pro res you can do prores hq well actually you know let's do this let's switch over i don't know how well you'll be able to see it but um we'll i'll show you how it's set let me go back to the rack view you might be able to if you're looking at it on the youtube stream then you should be able to see this as i pull it up so get out of the way here and get my noggin out of the way there we go so i'll go into one that's not being used i go into the menu set and then it says codec so if i scroll up to the top prores hq pro is 422 pro is lt prores proxy then i've got dnxhd 220 xqt i don't know what that is dnxhd 220 mxf dnxhd 145 qt 145 mxf uh dnxhd 45qt and 45 mxf dnx r dnxhr sorry h q x qt good lord there's a lot of letters um hqx mxf uh sqqt could grief sq mxf lb q2 lb q2 qt qt good grief lbqt you say that five times fast lb mxf and then finally so there's a whole bunch of dnx xrx dnx r1s and then h264 high medium and low now i will say that you cannot at least on this one and this might be supporting a new one gary i'd love to know this on the ones that i have i cannot record

4k 30 in h.264 if i'm inputting 4k 30 i have to record to prores i can't do it to h.264 i wonder if that's the same on the new ones

uh i guess i would have to check basically the best place to go is our website for the specifications because each of the decks are going to be different uh and the new have some 4k modes as well that wouldn't be on the mini and things like that so um uh i i can probably try to check that too before the end that's okay but it's okay if someone else it's fine so yeah that's that is a a i don't know limitation restriction whatever but if you're doing 4k 30 well if you do 4k then you can't record to mh264 okay uh were there other questions yes these relate to the iso recordings that probably is just one question combined here how can you sync the video with the master audio uh and the master audio file if all you have is a sync option for sound and not time code can you talk about that with resolve have you done that okay so so i'm assuming the question means if you're using if you're recording externally not using this system so you've got a magic camera you're recording a master to that you would have to use audio it also um relates to the fact that sometimes the camera audio will be a few frames off of the you know so the audio track will actually be a few frames off of the um the video and so they might be able to want to try to sync that too yeah exactly so so the first part of the answer is yes you'll have to rely on audio there is no way to feed time code into the ATEM mini lineup so its time code is generated internally as time of daytime code but you can't feed time code in from an external source so if you're using other cameras and regardless of whether they have time code or not they you will be relying on the audio from that camera with the audio that's captured in the mini to sync them up um in resolve i'm sure there's a way to automatically sync by audio there is in every nle so i'm sure there is but as gary pointed out it might actually be off by a few frames the audio will be in sync but then the video will not quite be in sync because of the audio and video delay that we talked about yesterday so if that's the case then you may have to manually flip it over a few frames to get it to line up but this is not a big deal because keep in mind you're talking about a live production if it was an hour long show or a five minute show or a 10 hour show it's still one track right so it's only one track that you would have to slip in and out of sync so so it's not a big deal to have to do if you do have to do it

okay i think we can continue on i'm gonna probably step out and look at the hyperdex for a minute okay cool alrighty uh thank you very much gary and we're back all right so now we are talking about the ATEM streaming bridge and this is once again how gary is actually communicating to me right now how you're seeing him so let's do let me just kind of high level this first and then we'll go into some looking at it so the ATEM streaming bridge is a little box that receives a signal only from and this is the this is important only from an ATEM mini or from a web presenter which we're going to look at next so it can only receive signals from there effectively what you're doing is you are just like from your atm you would stream to youtube or stream to facebook instead you are going to stream to someone's streaming bridge wherever in the world it is the latency is it's there you can tell here gary and i sometimes talk over each other there's a couple seconds latency here that's just that's just the nature of the beast but that gives you the ability to do a one-way stream in now i point out that it's one way because this is a really important aspect to this it is not a zoom call type setup where you're talking back and forth it is a one-way stream and so i've done a couple of live shows on this on my youtube live channel so youtube.com photojoseph live on the youtube live channel i've done a few streams about how to incorporate callers from a using this the the stream deck and adding zoom into it as a return and effectively what you end up doing is having a zoom call with let's say you got three callers that are calling in so you have a zoom call with them you me you the presenter you kind of ignore what's happening on the switcher other than you know you load up your multi-views maybe you're toggling back and forth between that but you're not looking at that or them in that switcher to hear them you're looking at the zoom call because zoom is virtually real time it's obviously a much lower quality but it is virtually real time and so you're able to hold on a fairly normal conversation through zoom right we've in the age of code we've all done zoom calls about a million times already so there you can have your normal conversation and in the um in the hyper sorry in the stream empty streaming bridge too many words too many names uh that's going to be coming in a little bit later but then everything syncs up in the end so this way you're not kind of waiting for them to stop talking or if you have a normal conversation so that works out really really well but you have to set up that two-way communication as a back channel and then have the high quality input coming in separately so that's effectively how that works let me show you the product and how this sets up um let's see here let's go back to the blackmagic website and pull up the products on here and um you know actually i remember it was hard for me to find this thing it's uh we're just gonna do streaming bridge and i think now the only place to find this is to go into the tech specs there it is streaming bridge there so that's what it looks like so you've got on this thing a um well you have an sdi reference in for sync but we're not going to worry about that you've got a sdi out dual sdi outs and an hdmi out and then there's the ethernet port and this ethernet port is where the signal of course comes in from the outside world and then it outputs simultaneously to two sdi and one hdmi so you could feed one of these into a switcher and you can feed the hdmi one into a monitor so you just want to have a separate monitor with confidence of what's what's going on and that's exactly what is happening here right now gary's stream is on a monitor that is an hdmi out from the streaming bridge onto a screen that i have down here so i can see him the whole time and uh and he's streaming to it so the way that you set this up so let's do that next let's go back to this and we go into the ATEM setup app and here's there it is there's atm streaming so i got three of these one two and three so you can see that gary is he's on air that's him he's sending me 1080p 2398 and he's sending me at a rate of 6 megabit give or take so that's what he is currently streaming to me i don't want to mess with this one so i'm going to open up a different one go into the settings in here and here's the configuration so just like with the ATEMs themselves you can set it to dhcp or build a static ip the way that i build my network and i'm not you know i'm not a network expert but i like to say that i know enough to get into trouble but not enough to get out of it but the way that i set up my network because i've got a lot of stuff in here is every device is set to dhcp however in my router i have assigned an ip address to every mac address so i go through the process of finding the mac address of every piece of hardware that comes in that goes on the network going into my router saying this about address gets this ip address and i have a spreadsheet of all the possible ip addresses and i've grouped them into lumps of like 50 or whatever to say this 50 is reserved for computers this 50 is reserved for streaming hardware it's you know not necessary but i've done this just for my own sanity and when i need to know the ip address of anything on the network i can just pull up my spreadsheet and i go oh okay streaming deck number two is is uh you know 128 so then i just it just makes that easy okay so you get your ip address for this then this is the interesting part the streaming the port forwarding so okay right now it says internet status port forwarding error but if i hit retry it's going to refresh and it says visible worldwide i don't know why but quite often when you first launch this even though you have it configured correctly it'll say is an error hit check again and it goes oh just kidding it's actually fine and believe me it's i've had one or two heart attacks from this but um but that what that button is doing is it's pinging the outside world from the hardware to make sure that it can see the internet and the internet can see it so super easy that's what it's doing but you do have to set this up and this is where things get a little bit tricky so um you assign a port to this and then we're going to go into our router software so let's let me just before i pull that up let me make sure that i pull this up clean okay and here we go okay so i'm gonna go to my router which is my local network i'm using a synology router this is something you can do on pretty much any router um worth anything so don't worry about like oh my router doesn't have that i'm sure it does and it's just your software is going to look different than this obviously this is a pretty advanced router this one actually this route this is so cool i have two isps feeding into the studio two total there's a local you know to the city that i live in kind of local homegrown isp that's very good and then i have spectrum as well i get better download spectrum uploads the same on both of them but i have dual isps coming into the studio because i do a lot of things in here where it's mission critical that i'm online and if one isp goes down because you know they always have a tendency to do that or for whatever reason it's acting up i have two i can switch back and forth and my router will automatically load balance and hand off data to the best one or more importantly i can actually assign a specific isp to a specific device so you know this device always uses isp number one this one always uses isp number two pretty slick stuff anyway just kind of going into the intricacies of this ridiculous setup that i have in here um all right so um where is my uh let's go to the network center app here we go hello network center app excellent and the page has totally locked up on me fabulous you know demos man don't do them i'm telling you let me refresh this and see what happens there there we go now it's working properly all right open up my network center um port forwarding i think this is not where yeah i go to the port forwarding right that's what i'm setting up and i'll give this it'll take a moment to load here's all the devices so there's my ATEM streaming bridges so we're not gonna mess with number one so number two go in here and if i edit this you'll see that it has a public port number 1932. let's go back to the setup this one here there's that same worldwide port you can enter any number you want here this is you just punch in you know one two three four whatever you want in here but whatever port you enter here along with the ip address of this device so what was it 128 so the 128 ip and this 1932 if i go back to safari we see there it is so then the there's the private ip address this particular router allows me to see all my assigned ip addresses with the names that i've custom set so it makes it really easy to find so there's number you know bridge number two and then i set up that public port um oh you have to set it to tcp udp protocol that's what you want to set it to and that's it i set that and once that's set then the router will be able to pass the data through and it will show up on the internet so you see here broadcast from internet and it says right here status is visible worldwide now i can if i'm not using this across the internet this is also very powerful to use just on a local network if i set this to local network without key then basically that means no password required if you will one if i set it to that way any ATEM on the local network will see it it will just automatically see that bridge from its stream auction menu so where you go choose youtube facebook whatever you'll just see your bridge in there it just shows up and then you select it and you hit stream and you're now streaming from the an ATEM on your local network directly to that streaming bridge it's if you want outside people to come in that's where you need to do the port forwarding and set up the internet access to it but if it's just locally just internal then that's all you got to do you just set it up and you can have it with a password or without a key or without pretty slick okay but let's go back to the way that gary's using it so again it's set up as a as internet obviously this is all configured and i've got some things i can change in here there's really nothing i need to do and then i go to this external ATEM mini pro and here i name the bridge whatever i want the server is defined the key by the way this key here whenever i want to refresh it i just go into here and uh look where to go there you go i go in here and i hit refresh you'll hit this button it just generates a new key so there's that key ry2f right that's the current key that key shows up here i can choose a quality that i want as a default in the preset that i'm building but gary will be able to change that whoever's got it we'll be able to change it i'll set it to streaming high as the default and then i click save and this is going to generate a simple little xml file that's it it's just an xml file it's tiny so teeny teeny tiny little text file i then email that to whoever i want so i email that to gary gary then downloads that file and then he goes into his uh his ATEM and now i have to switch back over to the atm extreme here he goes into his ATEM and under streaming he says load streaming settings and he selects that file and then it shows up under loops under output live stream it'll just show up under here and you'll see that output so that's it that's literally all it takes and then as soon as he hits on air he shows up in my feed and it's it's brilliant it's so so useful i've done the the big live show that i did where we were kind of playing with the whole thing i had i think one caller was from portland one was from i think the bay area and then someone from sweden i think that's how we had that set up so i you know it was coming from all over the world it was really cool it's really cool that you can do this so so that's what the streaming bridge does a relatively inexpensive little box no i don't remember 500 i remember i don't remember the pricing terrible prices um but relatively inexpensive for what it is and it gives you the ability to bring a stream in and it can be a caller it can be anything right anything that you want to feed into your ATEM you can stream to a point elsewhere in the world for them to include in their live show so that's how that works um yeah i guess there's not much else to say about that so let's see if there's any questions about it but that one's pretty straightforward i don't imagine there's going to be going to be much

right um uh just trying to switch modes here i did check on the hyperdeck um

hd studio um hd mini and it does not support the uh four four four four output so you need to build that it's would be nice if it did but it does not support that um okay can you recommend specific wired or wireless bikes that plug in directly into the ATEM oh gosh um okay sure and just before so i don't forget by the way the price is 245 for the the streaming brush i knew it was very affordable so i wanted to make sure i said it was like 500 so that was double that so it's 245. okay specific wired mics um i would say i don't have a specific model number but i would say go to road rod roads website they they make great mics very affordable very good quality mics and they absolutely have wired mics on there um that would be the first place that i would send you there's i don't have any sort i gave it away i had a wired mic from another company i'm trying to remember the name of the company that was quite good but i gave it away cause i didn't need it

i'm totally blanking on the name but i'm just going to say start with rode rode is good for a inexpensive wired mic that is going to be very good that would be my baseline starting point as you grow on beyond that you know rode makes great mics sennheiser makes great mics in fact sennheiser is what i'm using center and road are what i have everywhere in the studio the shotgun mic that i use in my office it actually knows i guess that's not a sennheiser road that is a darn what is that one um

i'll try to remember to talk about it when we go in there because we are going in there in a little bit and i'll have to look at it i always forget the name that one but i've got a i'm not using it right now for this because i'm on the lav but i've got a sennheiser shotgun mic over there this mic is a sennheiser avx that's the digital mic system um and then my little on-camera mics are all road mics so those are the two companies i mostly work with uh but anyway they're all they're all great i mean they're really good quality so here's a good one actually uh is there a way to use the ATEM streaming bridge to control a blackmagic camera remotely over the internet no unfortunately no because it's a one-way communication so you can't take control of that blackmagic camera across the internet that way that'd be cool if you could it is a it is a good idea um okay let me see i had one um okay uh what is the best most price reasonable solution for streaming um from the ATEM mini extreme iso or basically uh the ATEM minis to both youtube and facebook at the same time um any difference uh if you only do it once in a while and if you do it often is there a downside to streaming to both channels at the same time okay so technically the way that you do it is using a restream service so there's one called restream.io and they're uh their service works great i've used it a whole bunch and you can stream to a ton of destinations at once and they handle everything right so you basically you get your restream dot io key which you saw restroom.io is now built in natively to these so you get your key for your stream paste it in there and then on the restream website you say you know where you want it to go to you check all the boxes where you want it to go to they pricing wise they they have monthly plans and i believe they also have per stream plans i could be wrong on that a while ago i bought a lifetime license from them so it was on some crazy sale and it was it cost very very little for what it was it's kind of i look back and i can't believe i got it for that cheap but but i've got a you know lifetime license to stream to a whole bunch of destinations at once now if you need more destinations than what's included in your plan you can also add on additional streams per stream so there's a lot of flexibility in it but restream dot io is definitely the place that i would go to check that out if that's not enough or good enough amazon has a whole system in place you get a hardware box from them that you're streaming directly through that box to their servers and then they can redistribute but that's like you know really high level um restream dot io works great and it's a great price

there was a second question in there wasn't maybe i've talked a little bit on this yesterday wasn't there a second question in there

a second part of that that i missed

i i think it was based on um whether or not they were going to do it often or um okay just once in a while if there was a difference okay yeah do restrict check that out

so can you talk about i think we did yesterday the the best way to integrate professional balanced audio signals from an outside mixer um or microphone uh into the dual unbalanced audio jacks of the hm minis with a minimum of distortion cable interference latency other artifacts uh this is a great question talk about both line and mic i mean i can help a little bit it may take more than that okay so let me show you if i go back to the computer so i'm looking in the ATEM settings right now under the audio tab and under general and each mic input can be switched between line level or microphone level and then the newer atms have microphone with plug-in power and so you've got these options of where you want to set your level so that's critical if you're coming off a mixing board you got to set it to line level let's get that nice and close you got to get that to line level that is super super important to do other than that it just comes down to quality cables you know like any other audio setup you want good cables shielded cables don't have any longer than you then you need don't run them next to power lines all that good stuff but that's all just you know kind of audio basics but in the ATEM switching it to line level that's critical if you're coming off of a mixer

if it's okay i'll um just say a few words about this because it's kind of an area i'm interested in a lot one of the problems is from balance to unbalanced that people often fire this wrong and i want to say that it is incorrect to take a balanced audio source you know the two signals plus ground and wire them to the tip ring and sleeve of the unbalanced jack going in uh because the end result that you'll get is um uh out of his audio left and right and anybody listening in mono will hear nothing and i can guarantee that there are many many users out there that that say some iphones won't hear their um their podcast or whatever and other iphones well not iphones particularly some brands of phones won't hear the audio and other brands of phones will and it's strictly because they wired the microphone incorrectly going into the hm mini if you're going from a professional audio console the output level is a plus 4 dbu that's a certain voltage it's quite high compared to hifi levels the hm mini input is minus and it's unbalanced there are devices out there there's active devices and passive devices and i can't name brands and things but you can kind of look them up on the internet i recommend a transformer always a transformer based device will let you take unbalanced to balanced and either way and it will always generally always eliminate any noise hum interference and things like that that can happen from uh from various sources uh there are some really good ones out there i think he's got one in his hand um that you know they could cost under a hundred dollars easily um oh anyway let me let me they'll be talking um there are some good ones out there that um that you can get from under under a hundred dollars you can even get really inexpensive um for under ten dollars that will you know work in a pinch sometimes i use a bunch of those around here just to get rid of noise be going between unbalanced to unbalance because cables and grounding always causes this kind of a problem so it's always best to come up with some solution to eliminate this but um uh i i recommend a transformer-based product if possible to to go from a professional audio console to uh to the mini go ahead okay i want to add something about the the ground or tell a story who's talking about the interference and grounds and so on i very recently on my recorded shows which are often done here uh there's an audio buzz that got introduced into my signal and i was having a hell of a time figuring out where it came from and i finally just before we went live yesterday i tracked it down which is good otherwise you guys would have been hearing it right now and there was so i've got a mixed pre that is my audio interface that my current wireless lab is routed into so this is a and like i said a digital av system sennheiser avx it's got a little thumb size and here i can actually show you what this looks like so i got a second one here it's got a little thumb size receiver that plugs into the into the mixer so that's this guy right here where's my close-up there we go so this little guy here right little xlr well this thing is it has a battery right it's battery-powered but it also has a usb port to charge it well because it's sitting in the rack i just have it plugged into usb power all the time well it turns out the usb power brick that i was plugged into was a this little like i thought i was being clever i bought these ones that have two usb ports on them um you know two five volt ports so i can charge two iphones or whatever at once well that little piece of crap brick was introducing buzz into the signal as soon as i unplugged that it went away it's like you got to be kidding me so even yeah it took me a while to find because even when this was muted i was still getting the buzz so i didn't think this had anything to do with it but then i unplugged this entirely and the buzz went away and i go oh this is causing it well hold on plug it back in pulled out the power and it went away okay tracked it checked the port that i plugged the wall thing that i plugged into i'm like you got to be kidding me it's this so there's that so buzz can come from all kinds of places real nice remember yesterday i said audio is harder than video yeah definitely okay so to gary's talk about transformers and so on um i don't know if this qualifies as a transformer or not but this is what i have used this is a zoom f6 let's uh close up again so this is not really there we go this is the zoom f6 um multi-track field recorder this has six xlr inputs and then it has a line out which to see that's not the line outside somewhere over here there is there it is a line out you can see that on there so what this does is if i'm working and i've used this in live broadcast that i've done for clients where i'm getting an audio feed from the mixing board so i'm going xlr into this from here i can adjust levels if i need to and then send the line out plus this gives me the ability to record natively in here uh which is super awesome so that's that's how i use this and i don't know does this qualify as a transformer what you were talking about gary oh shoot and i just realized darn my bad sorry i didn't have gary on for when he was saying that and so you guys are just listening to silence because i have his uh his audio set to audio follows video so he's only on when he's on screen my bad but um but do you want to could you repeat i'm sorry gary could you just repeat that real quick yeah i i was basically saying um that the the transformer um that i'm used to is it's an old school type thing where basically you totally isolate the ground from one system to the other and so only the audio passes and it passes via an air gap so to speak so those are always the best methods of i to isolate of course good quality transformers are important or you you miss the high end or the low end sometimes but um the the other thing like in the case of the example that you had the plugging in the usb caused the ground of the usb system whatever it was connected to to connect to the same ground as uh the other end the mini or whatever device you're plugged into and those two grounds are not going to be exactly the same especially with computer buses and all that kind of stuff going around so anytime you connect two grounds that are not exactly precisely the same you're going to get current flow and that's going to always cause no hum buzz on an unbalanced circuit so because the ground unbalance is actually part of the audio in a balanced system the ground only shields um uh interference of the audio the audio is actually totally isolated from ground or at least it's supposed to be in a balanced type system so um i would i would always have handy a good transformer blocking device and i've even used these really cheap 10 unbalanced devices they've got a 3.5 millimeter in and out you could plug that on the input of an ATEM mini and feed just about anything into it i they're not the best thing but in an emergency they can get you out of a bind sometimes just to get rid of some noise and stuff like that so that's what i would recommend um and uh it's up to you now cool um gary if you could send later on and i'll include it when i do the link list of all the external hardware um a an example of these transformer devices you're talking about that'll be great sure okay cool thank you all right so um all right i just realized it is almost noon so we're supposed to be two hours with an hour of wiggle room in there um and we haven't gotten into we'd like practically halfway through so i'm gonna hit the web presenter really quickly that's the next part and then we're gonna get into the software stuff because that's that's where that's where the really cool stuff is um that i want to go to next so uh let's see here slides here we go so web presenter hd slash 4k is what's next um all i'm going to do right now is just show you the interface for that so and explain what it basically is and i'm going to do this by opening up the settings for this let me get it fired up and then i'll switch over to this screen um i already had it there we go and what just happened okay i don't have no idea why this is white in the background but that's okay so this is the control panel for this web presenter hd and you can see that it's been streaming for two and a half hours it's streaming to youtube at about six megabit stream if i go into this you can see the settings of this it's i can set my my size and bit rate sorry size and frame rate and set the quality on here and i can actually change it while live if needed and that's the key of the current youtube stream i probably shouldn't show that but there you go so all this is doing it's a very very simple device it is the web encoder that is built into this in a standalone piece of hardware with its own inputs and outputs it's not a switcher it's got you know one input and then an output for monitoring and i'm going to show you that in a second but this allows you to take you can take a single camera if you just wanted to go live with one camera no switching you could plug one camera into that and off you go it also can act as a webcam interface so just like the atm has a usb out plugs in your computer and the computer sees the atm as a webcam same thing with the stream deck sorry with the the web presenter it will has a usb out that the camera computer can see as a that's a webcam it also has a usb input to connect to a mobile device which is something we didn't talk about with the atoms but you can do this with the ATEMs as well where you can use a cellular connection to go live obviously you know you're a much higher risk of losing a connection that way but you have it primarily it's there for backup so if i had a mission critical live event and i wanted to have a backup that was over cellular i could plug that in and have it default over to the just fail-safe switch over that which is really really cool and you can do that in the in the ATEMs and you can do that in the web presenter as well um the web presenter one of the really cool things about it is it has this monitor that you can watch to see what's going on so i have this cued up here ah man i swear you know i had all some somehow i broke right before we went live let's definitely turn that off there we go let me try one more time

nope okay i broke something i'm sorry i had this perfectly set up and then i added something last minute this morning and it really botched things and i don't know what happened but anyway you get this great interface that shows you the status of your stream the status of your audio everything tons of data that's really really cool to see and i'm sorry that doesn't work it's the reason this is complicated to show up is because it will show what is being streamed live and i am using it right now to stream this show to youtube and so if i just bring it up normally then the window of what's being streamed is that and so you get the infinite mirror effect and so i have a supersource setup where it and where it overlays this video that you're looking at right now on top of it and i broke something in my last minute scramble to add something else so darn it that's why you test everything before you go live unlike me okay so that's that's all i wanted to say about that really cool product um now we're going to get into the last part of this which is super fun the bit focus companion so companions the software elgato stream deck that's the hardware and we're also going to hit nemo live and ultra studio 4k mini that's the ultra studio is a blackmagic hardware we're going to hit all of this at once because it's all kind of ties together in how i'm using it so let me just start with a high level of what each of these four things are and then we're going to hit into the other room where i've got it all set up and we're going to play with it in there so one at a time the bit focus companion bitfocus is the company companion is the product this is free open source software that allows you to control ip-based devices tons of different devices and i'll show you the list yeah i'll show you the list when we get in there um tons of different devices including the ATEM Mini so are all the ATEMs and there are a string of of commands that are built into it so what you do is you build in companion a button a action that does one thing or a whole series of things and so you can have one button just like on the atm that switches you know to camera one right so basically this switching right now you're seeing is actually running through companion it is a single command switch to camera b switch to camera a that's it but because it's in the software companion i can pull up those buttons on the stream deck so the stream deck is the physical part of this separate product separate company elgato stream deck they make a little tiny one and then this is the biggest one here so let me go back to the overhead view so this is the biggest one and you can see that all these buttons are their little led interfaces so i or lcd interfaces so i can customize these to say whatever i want you can even put pictures on them i just didn't bother with this setup you can even have pictures on them really neat and that gives you that whole tactile feedback so the companion app allows you to tie in all these commands together kind of like macros but it's a more visual interface now it doesn't do everything that you can do in the ATEM so you often still need macros but then you can combine them so you can build a macro to do this in a macro do that and then build a command in companion that does this this and this and then it calls up this macro and then it does this and this and it calls up this macro all stringed out and you can add delays in there so you can have it do something after a time so one button can kick off a whole bunch of events as an example the most complex one that i have built for my regular live shows that i do is um i have a set up where one button to start the show and what it does and i wait until my countdown goes to zero and i count down at zero and i'm ready i'm like okay ready to go i hit the button this will so cool starts recording in my hyper deck so it's controlling that hits record on the hyperdeck plays an animation through meemo live we'll talk about that in a moment it switches all the audios so it um it turns off the house audio before the show came on there was house audio just music playing so that's playing during the countdown so switches that off it switches the audio to the animation that's playing that animation is i don't say 10 seconds or 15 seconds long i think 10 seconds long so it plays through that as it gets towards the end of that it fades up my microphone so it doesn't just turn it on it fades it up so there's no like harsh cut for the live audience it fades up uh my audio at the end of the animation which is a four four four four animation with transparency as that animation wizzles out and does this thing on screen you see me revealed behind it so it has loaded me into screen in the meantime and um let's see here what else uh and then after like two seconds it brings up this lower third oh see oh man i'm really worried about what else i broke and it's not gonna work when i go in there but it brings up a lower third that comes up and it has my name and brand on it so all of this stuff is triggered with one button it's really cool and then at the end of the show i have another one that ends the show it goes to an end screen and stops the recording so that's just an example what you can do so that's companion the stream deck already mentioned physical hardware then there's memo live so memo live is a very powerful very robust app it's mac only that allows you to do all kinds of switching overlays graphics titles um picture-in-picture type layout think of it like uh like obs for those who know obs but obs that's not open source is a you know company behind it that is quite a bit more powerful it's um memo stands for multiple in multiple out and the idea is you can bring in multiple streams in from video sources things that are on your computer that you play back rtmp sources whatever just bring all the stuff in mix it up however you want and then it can go out multiple ways you can use it to stream directly to somewhere you can feed a video feed to a an ATEM which is what i do you can feed a video feed out to the ultra studio 4k mini which is also what i do we're gonna look at all this uh simultaneously so it's the multiple outs you have it go out wherever you want so you can use it as a live stream production on its own but when you combine that software with hardware the ATEM then you get the best of everything and so this is the kind of best of both world scenarios you have all the reliability of the hardware the quality of the hardware with the flexibility of software so you get the best of both combined together and then finally the last piece on that so this is the ultra studio 4k mini which is an interface for the computer that has dual sdi outs that's what i'm using it for so that allows me to just like we talked about earlier from the hyperdeck playing out 444 video where i've got a video and an alpha i can do that from the computer playing out but i have to have those dual sdi outputs so that 4k mini gives me those dual sdi outputs so in my setup those dual sdi outputs are feeding into my big ATEM for all the switching so that those are the four things let's go into the other room i really hope that everything still works when i get in there but here we go we're gonna switch

and you stopped hearing me once i walked in because once i hit the button because it switched microphones for me so again that was a switch that happens automatically uh what happens when i hit that button switch camera angles and switch the microphone so here we are um give me a second here to rearrange some things on screen then i'm going to hit my screen share button and i have a feeling this is broken okay i got to figure out what i did so give me a second here i'm just going to pull up my my ATEM and figure out where this is broken why where's this transparency coming from oh pre-multiplied key nope that wasn't it

ah there we go aha see okay this is a failure of perfect this is a failure of building enough things into the macro so i had these macros set up before where i was using a dve key for my upstream key then last minute i added something that used a luma key and when because i had last left it as a luma key for that i didn't have built into the macro to switch to the dve key and so that's why it broke so that's why a bunch of things broke earlier so which means i can probably now show you i might even be able to do it from here um go back to this view and then go to web presenter yes there we go so now that works so let me just real quickly bring that back up so this is the web presenter view that i wanted to show you earlier so this is what that looks like so now you can see all the different pieces for that so you get your you can see the status of your cache um you can see your data rate that's being transmitted and so on and so on so uh that's it's awesome this is great okay let's go back over there try not to break things again set that back turn that key off uh back to the office

voila here i am okay so again the importance of building a macro that has everything you need in it and obviously testing things before you go live okay so let's uh let's go to the screen excellent and um let me just show you the desktop video hardware first the ultra studio 4k mini this is the hardware that i was talking about that has the um the output so this is the this is their own software that controls it so you can see um this is all the hardware that is currently connected to my mac so like i said it's a mac pro so this is a a thunderbolt device and then i've got in here a um a decklink mini monitor which gives me a 4k hdr capable output so i plug that into my reference monitor and then i have another pci card that has four hdmi inputs so this allows me to feed video into my computer and i think that's everything yep it shows that's everything here but this little guy right here has the dual sdi out all right and then behind there is memo but we're going to start with um we're going to start with the companion so let me find that web page i know i have it set up in here oop wrong browser where's safari where's safari there it is and so many things open all right let's get this let me hide everything else hide everything else there it is and bring up that screen okay so this is this is companion so here's how this works you have this thing called instances this is what connects to your hardware so these are all the different pieces of hardware that are currently connected to companion that i can control from here so you've got you know the ATEM mini nemo live as an app is connected my big atm 2me als the xr16 which is my behringer audio interface the l6 hyperdex my perl which is another hardware live streaming thing and then more minis so there are more ATEMs there's a lot of atms on the network here and if i go ad by manufacturer you can see all the different companies that have products in here it's a ton of stuff in here um oh look elgato key light so if i oops if i go elgato word that go so if you have a key light or a ring light you can actually control that from here right i mean that's so cool um if i go into search i can do let's see if i do like projector barco projectors christie projectors that are controlled panasonic projectors that are controllable in here it's just wild go by category and there's just a ton of stuff in here that can be controlled certain microphones you can control it's just amazing amazing bunch of aj hardware a bunch of stuff in here so this is what this interface does and it's open source so you've got engineers who are kind of in their spare time just for giggles making new modules and here's what's really cool as an open source community you go to the um the github page and you can request modules if you have something you can request and if someone knows how has the time wants to they'll do it and if you need it you can offer to pay you know people like hey oh you know it's worth 1000 bucks for me to have this thing someone will do it for you so pretty cool setup so that's the kind of base of it now let's go in and look at some of these configurations so this is currently set up we're looking at the one that is actively running so if i look at my buttons these are the buttons that you saw on this on my hyperdeck right so if i click any of these buttons here it is going to actually do the switch so um i'll just do it i'll go ahead and i'll switch i'll hold down the shift key it turns into action but i'll hit a and um in it oh right and i still have the us key the key on so there you go i didn't have that manually set so let's switch back to this but um this gives you there we go this gives you the ability to control whatever you want in here so here i can do it by software this is the setup page i'll get into how to set this up in a moment so this is the setup page but i can go over here to a web button version it opens up a web browser version of this or let me close that there's also the mobile buttons which is basically the same thing but it's a slightly different feel to it that works better on a mobile interface and so this is what you would have on an ipad or uh any touch based you know anything with a browser basically so you could load that up in there this is just the url right go to web buttons i just copy and paste that url into any browser anywhere on the local network and i have control um and if you really wanted to get fancy you could even set up a vpn and have somebody extra oops um they were going to have somebody externally um i just realized you were listening to me on the other mic but you could hear me the sorry um like i said yesterday you could set up a vpn and have somebody outside of your network even controlling it through here as well if you wanted to wild so let me just show you some of the setup in here because it is really really cool let's look at a very simple one the switch to camera b all it's doing is telling the hm2 and me to set the input on the program to camera b so the way that i would do this uh if i wanted to delete it i'll make a new one so i go in here add key down actions so you see all the different commands in here so you start typing to narrow it down so i'll say program and so there's the commands atom2me set input on program so go on the 2me set the input on program oops i missed set input on program on the 2me send input on program there it is okay brilliant now it's just breaking why does everything break in a demo refresh this please back to the buttons back to the b program set input on program 2me okay seriously what is actually happening right now you've got to be kidding me why is this not working

you know you know just how things are right and now i've broken that button so let me refresh this again try one more time that is so bizarre if that doesn't work i have a way around this

program set input on programs select it oh for the love of okay so here's what i'm going to do i'm going to delete that button i'm going to copy button c over here and i'll rename that that is my b

oops b tight is that what i called it b tight and then here's the program that should have been added what was i don't know why it wasn't adding but then i go over here and i say switch that to the right camera so there's there's a very simple that's all it does i have no idea why this thing isn't working right now um that adds it to it okay so each one of these has that so if i go to something that's a little bit more complex like um this mac multi-view one so this is running a macro from the atm two of me so i built a macro called mac plus extreme that does a bunch of the layout and then this one let's see atm iso run macro this is setting a second macro uh oh what's the multi-view output is so i'm doing two things on two different ATEMps on the atm 2me and the ATEM mini extreme simultaneously with this one button so that's where these things all come in so that's that's effectively at its core what it is um if i let's see here if i load up the give me a second here i'm gonna i'm on the other screen right now i know you can see what i'm doing i'm going to launch the gui for the other instance of this it's currently running here we go let's bring this over here and here's my for my regular live shows this is a different button set i hit pre-show and this sets up my faders turns off the audio on the mic turns on the audio for the the pre-show the pre-roll um brings up a slide cues some music all of this stuff is happening with one button and then here's the show open where it turns off one of the keys it sets a different key on it runs a macro it sets up a cue it cues up my video oh no it sets the queues up a color for the um uh for the preview for part of the transition it sets the transition style so all of these things get done there's the hyperdeck um it sets the format to h264 and then it starts recording it with the name photo moment live and then it'll append the date and time after that it all of this stuff happens at once and it takes you know like a minute or something to run through the whole thing because it's playing a video and there's delays you delay millisecond delays 100 millisecond delay and then we've got to hear a quarter second delay here wait for a full second before executing wait five seconds before executing wait seven seconds before executing all these different pieces are in there with the delay so this is this is awesome and this layout right here that you're looking at this is designed so let me go back to the one that i'm actively on here we go um this is designed to go with the the stream deck so let me go to a blank one totally blank page there we go so see the little gray boxes behind it it's representational of i think the smallest stream deck is just these number but eight buttons i think that's right and then that gray box represents another size and then these all of them represent another size so depending on which stream deck you have you just build your buttons into the right size in there and as you saw you have multiple pages in here so you can you can do that so this is really really really awesome and powerful okay so now let's talk about memo live let me switch over to that and show how this is being integrated and then you'll see how it all ties together so this is memo the the method that i'm using to share the screen with you right now is actually through memo so instead of out in the main studio when i was sharing my screen i had my mac basically feeding directly into the switcher um yeah it's going from thunderbolt into hdmi and then it has to convert converted to sdi because my sdi switcher but it goes into the switcher as an input and i that means that i have to mirror my screen to well either i can two choices i can mirror my screen which means i have to set my screen resolution on my mac that i'm looking at at 1920x1080 and you might have noticed that there's times where i'm like looking in close because it's a really small macbook air screen and at that resolution it's kind of hard to see some things or i can set up a dual screen layout right and then that screen can be whatever it wants but the atm has to be 1920x1080 it has to be when i'm streaming when i'm using memo to share it'll take whatever i want at whatever size i want and scale it to output over the over using the um using the back here using the ultra studio it'll scale it to whatever resolution i've set on the ultra studio which is currently 1080p so it'll scale so i can tell it to share this whole screen or share part of the screen or whatever and scale it however i want to so that's the inputs um actually i guess we should go let me start at the end here and then i'll go back starting at the end here is the output excuse me at the outputs we have output destinations so a memo call i can send this out there's a lot of things but anyway here's the one i want to show you here's sending out to the ultra studio 4k and you see it's currently on air it's red if i wanted to add another ATEM piece of hardware i go in here or another blackmagic hardware there's a whole category of blackmagic design hardware i select that and then on the video on sorry on the device output i can choose where it's going to send the video and then what is it going to send is it going to send the program out or is it going to send a dedicated one of the other layouts or stacks that i have set up in here i can send anything that i want out to that so i could have multiple video interfaces let's say so i showed you the let me see here go back to this for a second i showed you this card right this is four hdmi inputs blackmagic makes one of these that is for hdmi outputs i'm actually really considering putting one in here because it would just be fun but then back over here in mimo i would have access to each one of those outputs and i could send any separate video out any one of those outputs even simultaneously it's really really powerful stuff okay so let me get rid of this thing before i forget what i've done and messed something up so i am currently outputting to the ultra studio it is outputting uh the video format i have to set that right to match the atm 1080p 2398 and then there's the keying mode so i've set the key to what's called external and that means that the software is going to send a separate key channel out over the ultra studio so that both the video and the key get sent to the ATEM okay so that's the kind of back end of how it works now we're actually going to set something up and that'll be the final part of this demo so let me go back to this um in here you'll see there's all these different video sources where do i want video to come in from i can bring it in from the ATEM um i think there's that innogenie that i talked about right i've got that coming in as a separate as a separate input it's for various things i can bring in ipads and iphones directly so all that i can bring into here so that's cool um excuse me memocolor is just a way to bring in live callers over the internet um desktop capture this is what you're actually looking at right now so there's my benq screen right here so this is how you're seeing my screens this output and a bunch of other stuff in here but i have this one here video to play this is the one we're going to play with so this is a little subscribe animation that i've loaded in it's just a little four four four four graphics file so now let's add this to the show so there's there's multiple steps to get this involved so this is the source then i have these things here called layer stacks a layer stack can be all kinds of different things this is what will actually get sent to air so this is just the media nobody can see this yet until i add it to this stack here and what depending on what type of media it is i choose the layer stack and you know i can generate things from here i can generate clocks and i can generate um i don't know scores if you're doing scores you can generate all kinds of stuff but in this case all i need is this video to come in so i'm just going to add this to the bottom of the stack in here um there we go add it to the bottom of the stack and i'm going to rename this it's just called a placer i'm going to call this my sub button and this is now playing up here now we can see what this looks like up here so this if i click live right now we're not going to see anything because it is under my current desktop stack so let's actually move it to the top of that in the scroll all the way to the top move it to the top now if i hit live we should see it there you go you see the animation flying in so that's the what you saw on top of that was the actual animation so once again there's that animation coming in okay so now i don't want it just sitting there it's kind of a weird place for it so let's position it so i go down here to geometry it's set to full screen but i'll go to custom and now i can just go in here i can drag this and i can scale it to make it a little bit smaller set it off to the side in there okay let's preview that again and there's that animation coming in okay so now i've got this set up if i'm just doing a live show and i want to have a keyboard shortcut forget about the um um forget about using companion for a moment i'm just using this i want to set up a keyboard shortcut to trigger that i go down here to triggers layer um type in shortcut okay so to try that up i'm going to do i don't know control shift s for subscribe okay so i just set that keyboard shortcut now i hit ctrl shift s and that triggered it and there it goes you saw it come in okay so that's one way to do it however let me get rid of that so i don't mess it up what i if i want to include this in a companion setup then i go to this next level of setting up a layer set now you can think of a layer set almost like a macro or almost like a companion series of events a layer set can activate and deactivate multiple layers at once and so if i want to have a layer set that turns on this background video it turns on that animation this sound whatever i built that as a layer set so it's one click to do that so what i do here is i go in and i add a new layer set and creates at the bottom we're going to call this sub layer and i open this up and it shows me everything every single layer stack is showing up in here now as i said it can do it can either well for each layer it can either do nothing no action it can bring that layer live it can set that layer off or if we can do what's called a force off the difference there is if you for a lot of layers you can have the off command have an animation so like when i turn it on it comes into screen and then i turn it off it goes out of screen so if i use as part of the layer command off then when i hit it it'll do out of screen but i can also enable force off which means no matter where it is it just immediately disappears it's just immediately off there's no animation it ignores the animation just cuts it off so you can go either way um all right so what i want is i don't want it to do anything for well i'm sorry i wanted to make it live for the sub button but then i don't want it to do anything to anything else so i'll just hit no action for everything else for this particular thing the sub button all i want it to do is activate that sub button okay so now you're thinking hold on why do this if you're why build a layer set that does one thing that i could do up here well here's why because if i right click on these little three buttons there's this thing here it says copy layer set api endpoint to the clipboard this now allows me to integrate this into my browser back up into companion which totally failed to work for us earlier so we're going to see if it breaks and if it doesn't i've already got one if it does break i've already got one set up so let's go here and create a new button set button type regular button we're going to call this sub and the action is going to be a get command from memo live and it's totally not doing it i cannot for the life you imagine why this isn't working but it would create a get command from emo live and then i paste that url into this so that's what the url looks like here's the kind of gnarly part of this you have to type slash recall at the end of it i

you'd think the integration would be better it isn't so you literally have to physically type slash recall at the end of that command for it to do effectively what this is doing you notice that this says this is a this is just an a url it's just a website right it's all it is but it's not a website it's an api command and this call is calling nemo live and this recall is the final command that says do it i guess so this command right here will trigger the animation this command right here is part of the button will turn on the upstream key that is needed to make that animation be visible so wait a minute what's going on here well remember right now when you see it you're seeing it through the memo interface all right you're seeing it on here and the only reason that you can actually see it on your screen where you're sitting right now is because i'm sharing this screen through memo as a um through sorry through the ultra studio which is then showing up in the ATEM as an upstream key when i if i hit this button right now you go away see gone hit it again and you're back so this has to be turned on for that animation to come up so to make sure that it actually works i make sure that it actually turns it on so let's go back to the right page here we go so make sure that it actually turns it on so now if i hit test button here we should see yeah of course now you know i broke something so but you should see that come on to play and it should play up on top of that i don't have no idea why i broke it but something i broke is breaking it so that is effectively how that would work so let me see it did i it works there oh duh because i deleted i deleted the one that was here that's why i wasn't working so let me copy that api endpoint go back to here go to the one that does work let's put in the new api endpoint so everything minus the recall there it is and now oops now when i hit test voila there it is and now it works so that's how that all ties together which is crazy it's a huge amount of stuff to tie together but it is so powerful when you get all this sorted out it is there's so much that you can do in here all right let me go back out to the other room i'll be right back with you

okay that's that i could spend a week showing you nemo live there's so much you can do in there integrating with the ATEM through the blackmagic hardware it's just an incredible incredible setup immense flexibility and power embedded in that thing and when you start putting all these pieces together it's just wild what you can do so that's the stuff that i wanted to show you i would love to show you a lot more in there but um you know at some point i gotta go eat lunch so let's see if there's any final questions and then we're gonna wrap this thing up and call it a day or a day and a half or whatever it has been um gary where are we oops i'm waiting for my switcher to come back there we go there it is gary how are we doing any questions that came up so um i i we're pretty clear with questions i'm just typing a couple of things um hold the stream on uh for a little bit after you uh after you close it just uh so i can finish uh finish up here otherwise it goes away um but yeah there aren't any more questions that i can see um the uh a couple of um really good uh contributions uh from some of the the viewers have listed some links for the uh isolation devices and things like that so there's been a lot of contribution in here that's pretty useful i hope people have been taking note of that awesome please make sure you send those to me because i'm not i'm not looking at the chat stream so i won't see any of that

now hold the um uh you can do your clothes can you hold the stream on long for a little bit so yeah i can start you know kind of of course stuff off because absolutely it's gone okay cool we'll do that all right folks so um you heard the man we will i'm gonna leave the zoom call open just on my end screen for a while here so that he can answer your questions and um and then i guess i'll give he has the power to shut it down so i'll let him shut it down when it's done the youtube stream will go away as soon as i go off the air here um thank you everybody for attending i hope this was fun and awesome and educational and informational and all that good stuff this is it's been a rock in two days there's so much that we've covered and it's as with everything i'm just scratching the surface so um just to remind you yet again i'm i have a youtube channel where i have a bunch of videos on on this stuff i've done a ton of atm videos in the past and i have a series an ongoing series called ATEM mini tips kind of a play on words there but it's little ATEM mini tips dedicated to the ATEM mini and its surrounding hardware and each new video is just some other little particular tip in there if there's ever a tip that you want you're like how do i do this ask me in a comment there and i'll add it to my list of tips that i will i will do i've got a massive list of them to do i just wish i had more time in the day and the week and the month in the year to do more of these but you know there's only one of me here so i do what i can uh thanks again everybody for attending this video will be re-uploaded to youtube to my youtube channel youtube.com photojoseph later in the or next week and um and yeah that's the plan i guess that's everything so if any questions you didn't get answered gary's gonna stick around and try and do those via text for you and um anything you think about afterwards go ahead and drop it into one of the comments on my youtube videos or feel free to hit me up on twitter as well just you know publicly post a question on twitter photojoseph on twitter and i'll do my best to get to you i guess that's it okay hey guys thanks again this was super awesome i hope you had as much fun as i did i'm signing off i'm gonna go eat lunch gary's gonna answer your questions we'll see you later bye bye gotta find my page where i put the end thing here it is end screen bye you