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a new phase for LUMIX… the LUMIX S5II

Photo Moment - January 04, 2023

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After years of development, Panasonic has finally released their new camera – the LUMIX S5II! This camera is a game changer – it has an incredible autofocus system that makes shooting photos and videos a lot easier and more fun. In this video, we'll take a look at the new features of the LUMIX S5II and see just how feature packed it is. If you're looking to upgrade your camera or if you're just curious about this new camera – this is the video for you!

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Hi! Great job. Can I ask? Phase detection works in 4K 50p? Works in any resolution? Thanks
THE WIFE IS "ALWAYS" RIGHT! SUBCRIBED FOR THE METRIC. CLEAR CONCISE AND NO NONSENSE ALWAYS WORKS FOR ME. THANKS
She appreciates 😀
Thank you so much!
so one thing. In 1080 50p it loses pdaf and only uses dfd. Am I right? Because you are using a full frame sensor instead of apsc
I love how you did the whipping around vlogging test, because i did that a lot with the s5, and that was really my only downside
Your wife's right, isn't she always right? 🙂I pre-ordered my S5IIX and I feel like a kid before Christmas... the days are taking forever. Can't wait to get my new rig put together. Liked & subscribed. Thank your wife, Paul @ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdq2jaxcmgyX0AERivIB2Tw
3:15 For the first time in my life I hear a YouTuber admitting that asking viewers to subscribe doesn't work. Because it doesn't. People either want to come back or not. They either want to hit the like button or not. Your wife is wrong lol. Why annoy people with that same washed out phrase to subscribe and hit the like button? Thank you for honesty.
Also… this video gained 3x to 6x the new subscribers to any other video. So, at least used in moderation, it does work!
I appreciate your comment! Except that… if you look through the comments here, many people said “thanks for the reminder” 😅 I think an occasional heartfelt request vs the rote “like and subscribe!” Is a good approach.
QUESTION: …but first, thank you for this Joseph. At 8:22….what is the difference between 4K and C4k?
There's one thing everybody must admit: Panasonic always ends up listening to its core base customers. We wanted to keep the fully articulated screen on all cameras, done, no compromise; We wanted a full frame series, done; We wanted phase autofocus, finally done too.
Yep! Took a while but we got it. And this is only the beginning of the next “phase” for LUMIX 😊
Sorry for being a bit out of topic, but I know you are very knowledgeable on these sorts of things...do you know if it's possible to live stream on youtube with my phone using what I am shooting with my Panasonic camera? Just like what the go pro is capable of doing, for example. Thanks!
The S5IIX will be able to, and the GH5II can today.
Yes yes do dedicated photo review with lut added. Can’t find one video on line yet covering this properly 👍
On it!
This is a little off topic but don't know where else to go with this. For photos, when using flash in Continuous AF there is about, what feels like, a .5 second lag from when the shutter button is pressed and the actual photo is taken. However, this is not the case when shooting in Single AF. Is there something that needs to be changed in the camera or with a firmware? Thanks again for all your help.
@@photojoseph I am using the Godox V860II
Interesting. Which strobes?
Sean from LUMIX USA said that PDAF doesn't work on FullHD 50fps. How does the contrast detect AF work in FullHD 50fps 10-bit? Is it reliable?
I haven't tested but it'd probably be the same as in previous LUMIX cameras. Keep in mind you can get PDAF at 4K50 or 4K60 but just not in full frame; only with the APS-C crop.
That chart comparison was SO helpful no other channel did that and it gets so confusing to see what upgrades are worth it. Thank you.
You're welcome! I hope you found the full chart on my website as well at
https://pulse.ly/35iocw4o4p
Is there PDAF shooting in 60fps in 1080p?
So, just to be clear this isn’t unique to Panasonic. Canon has the same issue on some cameras. But yes, hopefully they can figure it out!
@@photojoseph Thanks for getting back! I hope it’s something they can fix with a FW update(if possible). If other brands can do it I’m hoping that Panasonic can too. Fingers crossed 🤞. Thanks for all your continued information.
No. This is something I've just been learning about and trying to figure out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
The pdaf doesn’t work in full hd 50p. You didn’t mention that.
@@photojoseph Makes sense.
Right. 25 fps is half the data and is scaled from the full frame 4K 25p image. The camera does 4k25 at full frame.
@@photojoseph Thanks for your reply. It does have PDAF in 1080 25p though 🧐
Right — this was not information I had at the time and I've just been learning about and trying to figure this one out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
I watch so many of your videos and can’t believe I haven’t subscribed. You’re wife is right 😅
Haha thank you, I’ll be sure to tell her!
Great video per usual. I'd love to see you dedicate an entire video to Real-Time LUTs.
Awesome. It’s on the list!
J, do you think PDAF will be offered in a firmware update to current S1H owners, or is this just new (old) "tech" baked in to new cameras?
it's hardware, sorry
Yes to still photo workflow
It’s in progress!
An off-topic comment: I really liked the camera zoom/move effect when you were sitting on the chair and leaning forwards and backwards. I think I'm going to steal this idea. I guess you did it in the post, right?
Oh wait… maybe this was 4K to start… I don’t remember. But anyway 6K start is best and yes it’s done in post ☺️
Thanks! And yes, in post. An advantage of shooting 6K for a 4K delivery!
Hello, I have purchased Lumix S5 october 2022, and now you released a new S5II camera, why did Panasonic sell Lumix s5 camera with autofocus issue. all time S5 have a problem with autofocus. At least they have should recall application for all Lumix S5 cameras . They sell defective camera on 2 years. Now they corrected auto focus defect issue and call it Lumix S5II. This is not fair. I am felling like a donkey.

Thank you Panasonic.
I’m sorry you feel this way but it was not a defective camera. LUMIX cameras have had a contrast based auto focus system since forever. This is the first camera of a whole new generation of AF for LUMIX called PDAF. Your AF isn’t defective — PDAF is just better.
Does this camera take in the same lenses as a gh5
@@photojoseph Thanks pal
No, this is the full frame LUMIX line, with the L-Mount lenses. GH5 is Micro Four Thirds.
Great explain, full details explain wow, 😊
Glad it was helpful!
amazing. bye bye Fuji. bake your own LUT as you shoot, stills or video? WOW. AF is of course the big story, but the ability to grade in camera? awesome. MARTY SENDER YOU TUBE
That's awesome!
Hello I need to decide between S5 ii and S5 Ii x and thought you could help, I have questions about the X :
- can you record internally while Livestream? If so, can you record 4k and stream hd via wifi hotspot?
- does it have timecode freerun ?

Thanks a lot, I couldnt find these info anywhere, and since you are familiar with all the Lumix cameras I thought you could help.
@@photojoseph thank you for your reply. Since I have your attention there's one basic feature I'd love to see on the gh6 via firmware update but I have no idea where to submit it : video in 50P 4:3 no crop (they decide the resolution based on what it can do). In this day and age where everything goes on Instagram as well, it'd be super useful for many content creators... Some slow -mo here and there gives much flexibility on the editing.
We don't know yet if the S5IIX will record while live streaming. The GH5II does not offer that capability however. And it does have freerun timecode, yes. There's just no timecode input/output on the S5II or S5IIX. The GH6, GH5II, S1H, BGH1 and BS1H support timecode in and out.
I love Panasonic. Now more than ever. I might have to get a ff now.
You will love it! I use both MFT and FF depending on the needs.
when you adapted EF lenses you only used primes , did you try telephoto zoom too ? are they incompatible with the s5ii ?
@@solarion33 yes. Some lenses work better than others. I didnt stress test the 70-200 since I have that same lens in native L Mount though.
@@photojoseph did the new autofocus worked too on the telephoto ?
I only tested primes because that’s most of what I own and what I’m most interested in. I have an old 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/4 and those work too, but those lenses exist from Panasonic in L Mount so I was less interested to try.
As a GH6 owner, this is very useful 5:57 , however i may wait for the S5iix to release for the additional features it has over the S5ii. Thanks for the review 👍
The GH6 has Synchro Scan too!
So nice to finally see you in focus after all these years @PhotoJoseph 😅
Bring on a successor to my G9 at around $1299 with this fantastic PDAF, dual UHS-2 SD card slots, with unlimited 4K60 uncropped and I'll bite 😆😆
Next gen livestreaming stuff a la Gh5mark2'd be nice too 🤠
This S5mark2 is the best full frame on the market yet, for sure (A7S3 4K60 crop/IBIS was unusable and too expensive imo). But I won't spend $3K+ upgrading to FF with new lenses etc if there isn't FF 4K60 uncropped that comes with it..
If S1Hmark2 comes at $2.5k, with uncropped 4K60 (even 8K?), we'll see 🤗
Great video bro!
Thanks man! Yours too. Great hanging in Japan-land!
Great video Joseph, So So glad the auto focus has been nailed and long awaited....Panasonic have always been fantastic along with all the embedded little goodies that come along with them' I love the live comp mode... Anyhow great review and the best to you for 2023....Take care from the u. k....
Thank you!
great video as always.
I'm really curious about the software\app control on the s5ii as you covered it on the past on other lumix cameras.

my thinking is that if I could choose the focus point remotely on the computer\app for live streaming and it will stick dependently that would definitely encourage me to get a few s5ii..
So, you can change focus modes but I don’t believe you can attach the tracking target to a subject remotely, if that’s what you’re asking. But I wouldn’t rely on that for a live stream. Face detection works great and that’s what I’d use.
Recent subscriber (today - kudos to your wife). I am still sporting the Canon 5D Mark III, and the S5 II is really interesting (especially allowing me to adopt my EF lenses), but I use Godox AD200's. Would this S5 II use the Olympus Xpro-O 4/3 Godox controller, or is this more a Leica flash system. I've been thinking about going with the Canon EOS R6 II, but this has really captured my attention, especially at this price.
All my flashes are Godox Olympus/Panasonic. They work great!
I work for Panasonic and can confirm we use the Olympus flash protocol. We even have 2 Godox flashes in our cabinet at the booth to Demo and many of our ambassadors use the Godox Oly transmitter.
The Canon lenses AF test helped me a ton!!! Thanks!!!

I was hoping to see the 24-70mm f/2.8 L and 70-200mm f/2.8 tested too. But, you did test the 85mm and 100mm that I have too.
The sigma 18-35 1.8 EF lens is very popular. We use it a lot on our productions... The S5 II is a great APSC camera aswell: 4k50, good rolling shutter performance... And unlike the first S5 you can shoot hd@100fps in APSC mode too.
@@photojoseph bokeh-lishous!!! I love my 85mm f/1.2
Awesome! I don’t own the 70-200/2.8. I do have the original 24-70 but didn’t put that one on as it isn’t “special” like the others — especially that 85!! 🤤
I really hope we get a G9 Mk 2 with PDAF.
Joseph, great review.

Which would you recommend the 5ii or the X?
@@photojoseph I’m going for the X, even though I am not that patient 😅
That’s why I listed all the features here; so you can make your own decision!
Rather happy with this release, in lieu of trying it. My S5 is awesome and this is a big deal especially for a mkii
Very slick, Joseph!
Thanks Bob!
Best S5ii review hands down. Straightforward no nonsense and useful info. Thank you. - had a question maybe you can answer… waveforms… can you make them go away after you hit record in the S5ii? On my s5 I can’t seem to make them go away after hitting record. Also can you resize them like I believe you can I the Gh6?
Thank you! Yes you can resize and reposition the waveform monitor. To hide it after you start recording, press the Disp. button, but it doesn’t automatically hide while recording.
Getting it next year!
Seriously, I've binge-watched about 20 reviews on this thing and your review hits all thr important bits. Best review. Well done. I feel like this SiiX will be the perfect camera at that price point. Happy days! Panasonic finally came through with AF. I imagine it will only get better as firmware improves.
Wow, thanks! I really appreciate that.
Your wife is right. Subscribed. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for the sub! ☺️ (and I’ll let her know hehe)
Is it useful for action sports please ?
Of course! At 30fps stills… heck yeah!
Yes please,adding luts to my photos, but what about video ,is that possible??
I don’t understand the question. The entire discussion of real-time LUT was for video, except my mention of what I’m most excited about. Yes I’ll do a follow up video on stills.
Great video as ever Joseph! Would definitely love to hear more about Real Time LUTs for photography/jpegs. I agree, really exciting feature!! Incidentally, does this mean this could mimic say Fujifilm's film simulation recipe feature (well, kind of!)? Keep up the work! Cheers 👍
@@photojoseph wow so cool, this could open up so many possibilities, well played Panasonic! Appreciate your super quick response too, thank you.
Thanks! And yes, that's the idea!
Let me applaud you for hanging onto and testing the 1.)Canon 85mm f/1.2 and 2.)Canon 100mm Macro. Two kick-ass lenses which NOW will work with this Lumix SLR type body and continuously autofocus. Well worth waiting for, and high performance on any camera body (finally). 👍
yeah I'm stoked I still have those. The only lens I sold from that collection was the 400mm f/4 as it was worth a lot and sadly at the time I needed the money!
Wait, I need the link to those gloves!
Ah! it was too small on my screen. thanks!
@@kylelowe “vallerret”, just like it shows on the label! They’re great.
@@photojoseph What are they called?? Where can I get some??
Right? They're awesome!
I would definetely buy the S5 II X "TODAY" , but as it will be released by the end of May, I'm quite sure the cuncurrency will come up with quite a good stuff till there..
Waiting.......
I get it!
Badazz!Thank you. Cant wait for the gh6 on steroids.Thanks again
Not sure if i can wait. So everything u shot in this vid is 24fps 4k. How about the 5.9k 30 or 4k 30? Is there 60? Pda and is just as good? Oh and how bout pda on hdmi raw formats. This video i keep going back to .about the time i purchase That pda gh6 will announce🎉Thank You
You and me both!
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