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Recent Podcasts Discussing the Aperture to Photos Transition

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July 11, 2014 - 12:00pm

Given the popularity of the “Apple cancels Aperture” news over the last couple of weeks, it's no surprise that I've been asks to join a few podcasts. TWiP (This Week in Photo) with Frederick Van Johnson of course was a natural. I also joined a show normally all about Final Cut Pro X called FCPX Grill with Chris Fenwick to discuss the similarities and differences in the transition (as compared to the Final Cut Pro 7 to Final Cut Pro X transition), and finally a UK based podcast, Let's Talk Apple with host Bart Busschots.

  • This Week in Photo — Episode 367, “Apple Stops Down Aperture”. The Aperture discussion is the first story so just listen from the beginning.
  • FCPX Grill — Episode FCG062 “Obvious Speculation”. It's just me and Chris on this one, so start from the top!
  • Let's Talk Apple — Episode “June 2014”. The Aperture discussion starts at 48:00 (the volume difference between the host and the guests is dramatic, so be careful if you crank it up to hear Bart talk, that you don't blow your eardrums when I chime in).
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The FCPX podcast was interesting to listen to. Some interesting parallels and some additional hope. I can see where Apple learned their lesson by scraping FCP7 too soon in the roll out of FCP X, so it makes sense to keep Aperture around at least until the next OS beyond Yosemite.  It will give those who choose to stay the course for now a chance to see what Photos has the potential to become.  BTW, I think Apple should hire you to do the introduction demo! :)

Florian Cortese

I agree … the FCPX podcast was very hopeful.

I know that in my experience, if Photos can ever do for still images what FCP X has done for video … including third party options … I would be VERY pleased. When you add a “plugin” or extended options from third party developers to FCP X, unlike in still images, there is no export to a secondary file to complete the task … the additional function appear as a sea less integration into FCP X (though there are a few options that do work this way with RAW video)

I’ve just been totally elated with the additions/improvements FCP X received in the 10.0.9, 10.1, 10.1.1 and 10.1.2 updates … HUGE steps forward for sure.

I also emphatically agree … (In another month, I will begin my 40th year as a full time pro photographer) … TIME IS MONEY! It is far wiser to and much more profitable to spend more time clicking a shutter release than a mouse or track pad.

For image processing to be classified “professional” the deciding factor should never be based upon the number of sliders available … such solutions should offer wide options in results … that does not have translate into they must also be intricate and cumbersome to employ. The processing should be powerful and also easily and efficiently invoked.

Which brings us back to PhotoKit, CoreImage and the new Photos app … I’m hoping it is the first step in a new and majorly important paradigm.

After listening to the podcasts, I still feel spending time helping people move to Lightroom is an ill advised use of your time. If you are solely doing this as a courtesy to your loyal readers I could understand on a human level. But Adobe will have tons of tutorials without your doing anything to promote their product.

I don’t like Adobe’s business model - a software company run by a marketing dept - Adobe established the cloud / subscription model principally to assure a steady income flow and hence raise stock valuations for their top managers - customers were an afterthought - unlike Apple which mostly targets customers’ needs first. One doesn’t  reward Adobe’s business model. I realize some people might need something right now, but as you point out in the podcasts - what’s the rush?, things are still workiing with Aperture and will for sometime.

That said, the problem for Apple of course was the way they introduced the Photos transition and their seeming indifference to the hassle it potentially might be for customers. I think this is ineptness on Apple’s part, but not at all what Adobe does; a closeted mentality at Apple can yield pleasing surprises in product announcements, but also can leave you feeling a cork on a stormy sea if the customer has invested a lot of time creating files using their products when the paradigm shifts.

I’m confident Apple will come through in Photos. I simply trust the company. I think the Apple ecosystem will have wonderful additions to a new Photos.

The implementation of iCloud for photos is another story - I’d like to see a Crashplan like option, where larger files can, for a fee, be sent via that ancient technology, CD/DVD, to the iCloud repository for loading on their servers. That is, I see the cloud as not only a mobile option, but also a natural born backup.

Interesting times…


Hello Sander,

You wrote, “Adobe established the cloud / subscription model principally to assure a steady income flow and hence raise stock valuations for their top managers - customers were an afterthought - unlike Apple which mostly targets customers’ needs first.” While I am a diehard Mac OS X and iOS user (and have been for a very long time), I would never assume Apple’s primary interest is customers’ needs. Even it is, that is a means to an end - making money. Apple, like Adobe, is a business. In other words, Apple’s customer-centric focus is not merely for altruistic reasons. It’s to make money. That is why Apple exists. That is why Aperture has virtually languished for years while iOS devices rose to become king of the hill. They make money for Apple. 

Now, the matter of which company you trust is a personal decision. And I could not fault you for that. In many ways, I, as a user of both Apple’s and Adobe’s products, have some measure of trust for each, and some measure of distrust for each. 

My vote of confidence in Apple as a company and deep appreciation for Mac OS X is demonstrated by the fact that there are no less than five current generation Macs in my home, including the very expensive current generation Mac Pro in my home-studio. But that confidence is not without its limits. I don’t have the same trust when it comes to Apple and photography. There is a history with Apple and me over Aperture. And that history (blogged here: does not engender trust. 

For those who continue to depend on Apple’s ecosystem for photography management, I hope you and other prognosticators about a positive post-Aperture future are right. When I see the evidence, I’ll believe it. 

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