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How to Bring LIVE Callers on Your LIVE Show!

Photo Moment - September 29, 2021

If you've ever wanted to bring a live caller, from Zoom for example, into your LIVE show, using your ATEM Mini , then this ATEM (mini) Tip will explain exactly how to do it!

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Using your “real” camera for a zoom call with an ATEM Mini is easy — just plug the camera into the ATEM, and the ATEM into your computer! But what if you want to bring that live caller… on a live show? That's what this tip is all about. Outlining every step, including how to wire it, how to setup the computer, how to set up zoom, where to position the windows, how to build a super source or PiP (Picture in Picture) to make it look good… and most importantly, how to monitor the audio!!

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Fantastic tutorial. Learned a ton.
I have a ATEM MINI EXTREME ISO but for the capture card could I just use my ATEM MINI ISO or should I just use my Elgato HD60+. I do like that Flint D4P though.
Oh totally, you could loop that output through another ATEM!
@PhotoJoseph ok cool. I'll give try this weekend for sure. Thanks Bro
nice!
Great video!! Thanks 😊
Thank you!
Such a great demo. THANKS for sharing it. Your style is so much more enjoyable than other videos trying to show off the ATEM features.
Thank you Ant! I really appreciate that
Very detailed great content as always 😊 thank you very much for sharing, really appreciated.
Xin
my pleasure, Xin!
Thank you @PhotoJoseph! You've definitely got some gears turning in my head. I'm going to try some slicing up of Zoom participants and manipulating with SuperSource. QUESTION: Is the Flint D4P your "Capture Card" of choice for M1 Series Macs?
Not necessarily… it’s just one a company sent me to check out. I only broke it out for this video. Nice thing is that it’s 4K and it has dual inputs. You could use it as a 4K input for a live stream using OBS, if you wanted.
Brilliant, well researched and expertly presented as always - thank you so much!
Thank you Gerry!
I use meeaudio’s M6 IEMs with a Stereo to mono cable in Clear. It loops over the ear, and I choose the ear that doesn’t face the camera as much. It’s very discreet, kinda like what TV broadcasters use, but cheaper.
A lot cheaper! Nice one.
Hey Photo Joseph i was wondering can the Atem Streming Bridge reseave a live stream via rtmp like for example a mavic pro streaming via rtmp...is it posible ?
Sorry Edgar — the Bridge is proprietary and can only receive a signal from an ATEM or Web Presenter.
By any chance do you have the Hollyland 400s pro, I heard you can receive a wireless transmission via Ethernet adapter, It would be cool to see a race between the bridge and holly land
I don't, that does sound interesting though
PhotoJoseph - as always entertaining and informative - I just want to confirm (since I just set up a mix-minus configuration) - this setup eliminates any need for a mix-minus audio feed to the caller, correct ? Are there still instances in which the mix-minus will be useful or even required? Thank you for all the work you've done, it has certainly helped me.
Thanks Billy! I’ve done this setup with Zoom and Skype and never needed a real mix-minus, which is pretty amazing!
@PhotoJoseph Very kind of you to get back to me - are you aware of a way for musical artists to perform together w/o latency?
@Billy Mac Songs I’ve heard that services exist but never tried one. SRT is the lowest latency system I know of but I don’t know if it’s good enough for music.
Great Video. Which lens would you recommend for the g7?
Thanks Brandon! I was using the kit lens here; it’s a 12-23 or something like they. Tiny. But if you’re spending money, I really like the 12-35/2.8. That’s what I use in my main office camera setup.
Excellent probably isn't a fair description. Brilliant maybe is better.
Why thank you, Mr. Black 🙇🏼
This is a great explanation and another good idea for using an accidental “feature” of Zoom. You’ve given me a great idea for recoding a podcast this way. I have only a basic Atem Mini so I also use OBS and an HDMI splitter to get the second screen displayed and also into the Atem, so I can route it all back into the Mac; on the Mac I then have OBS to gather sources in scenes and use the OBS virtual camera to feed out to MS Teams or Zoom - or to record. I then have the flexibility to switch sources on the Atem (cameras, iPad, HDMI)… or in OBS where I can add video, other webcams, or make other changes with filters. I have also picked up a few old Nikon D7100s that output clean hdmi and can be set to use ext power and run all day - they are 4:3 not 16:9 though so need aspect shifting in OBS; but then, that’s already how I mix my video. I have no idea how it all hangs together, but it seems to work. And all through videos like yours and Aaron’s to give ideas of how you can use different tools together; thanks!
I love it… it's so cool to see what people have hacked together over the years! Awesome, and thanks for watching, Richard!
Sony a6100 is cheaper and has mic input.
New Sony e10 is also cheaper.
Also, I believe Rx100 (starting mark iV) have it, and is about 200-300 dollars.

Btw, besides mic input and clean hdmi, you also need no-sleep battery power. That mean using dummy battery most of the time.
Not familiar with those cameras; I'll check them out, thanks! As to no=sleep, is that even a thing… every camera I've used has the option to disable sleep
The a6100 isn't cheaper. G7 is going for $598 w/ kit lens. A6100 is $710 with no lens. The ZV-E10 is $798 w/ the lens.
Hi Joseph
I just ran a hybrid event with remote presenters coming in via zoom, and the event going back out to YouTube, and the audio kept dropping out on YouTube. We did have some bandwidth issues, but it didn’t seem to effect the video, only the audio. My zoom audio was going into my stream from the atem extreme iso, via a seperate mixing desk, and I was monitoring audio on the atem which was fine coming from zoom but not good once it reached YouTube. Any tips on improving this, much appreciated.
Great content BTW
Hm that's tough to troubleshoot… did you have the "use original audio" option enabled? Just to remove any processing by Zoom? And how was it getting to YouTube; via Zoom's own publish to YouTube option>
@PhotoJoseph hi, I dont think I did have the ‘original audio’ option set, and noticed that in-your tutorial, I hadn’t realised the benefit of disabling Zoom audio processing. The audio was getting to YouTube through a Rodecaster connected to the Mac mini which was running the zoom call and I was using an output from the rode to the extreme iso, then streaming directly to YouTube from the iso.
Got it. Lots of pieces. The “original audio” is what I’d try next!
Thanks for that great explanation!
Do you have some experience with blackhole for the audio-routing?
I don't! What does it do?
I used the Blackhole routeing on Mac until I bought a Scarlet 2i2. Blackhole allows you to route back audio and works well with amalgamated sources in the midi settings; except MS Teams didn’t like that much. The 2i2 gives a headphone out and audio for monitors and takes audio input from an external mic. That mic can be routed, or selected as the feed to Zoom, Teams, etc. Adding OBS and sending different scenes through its virtual video camera to Zoom is also a neat trick. OBS then also allows me to record.
Neat!
Awesome as always. One suggestion! Loopback is fantastic, but you can also make a Aggregate output in a Mac with the AudioMIDI app. It's not as user friendly as loopback, but it will work a-okay if you need to save some pennies.
I totally forgot about that, Kyle. But it'll do the same thing? Create a virtual interface that I can pick up in another app?
After watching this video, I realise how novice I am in doing my live shows esp on audio during a mix of live real audience and live virtual audience.

Just can't get the audio right.
Audio is HARD, for sure! What are your common issues? I definitely need to do some videos on audio for the ATEM.
PhotoJoseph I watch most all of the You Tube channels that have livestream content. I have to say you are the best at demonstrating how to videos. Most channels tell me how a piece of hardware works. You show how it works in detail. That sets you apart from the others. Glad to see you back at it again! Thanks
oh thank you so much Roger, I really really appreciate that! By all means, please help the channel grow… share the channel, and your enthusiasm! 🤗 Viewers like you make this all worthwhile.
As usual, you bring this into simplicity Thank you very much Joseph, I really enjoyed it
Thank you Ilan!
Using Zoom's noise canceling to do mix-minus audio - genius! Lots of good tips here Joseph, thanks.
I keep expecting it to fail… but it really really works! Of course what the ATEM needs is a mix-minus, but that's another story ;-) Thanks for watching, Gil!
Great detailed explanation! It's almost exactly like how we run Zoom calls during livestreams, so very nice to have confirmation on this method.
Oh sweet! What are you doing differently (since you said "almost exactly")? Thanks for watching, Jorg!
it’s too complicated, why not just using the laptop? Zoom is already self contained.
because the quality of Zoom to YouTube is complete rubbish, AND you have zero control over the layout, AND you don't have everything else you can do on the ATEM.
Have you tried bone conduction earphones? You can listen to your device while still being able to hear what's going on around you/
I never have, actually. They work well? Isn't that what Jabra was back in the day… I remember those being totally trash, but that was a good decade ago! Do you have a brand you like?
@PhotoJoseph I've only got bluetooth connected bone conducting earphones and have found Aftershokz to work well. A limitation is that they are the opposite of noise cancelling so great in low ambient sound. Near traffic when I'm running they are ok for music but not speech.
@PhotoJoseph Of course, your standard for acceptable earphones may be much higher than mine.
ahh right. Being bluetooth limits their usability for a broadcast setup, too. Thanks though!
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